From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Petko Manolov <petkan@mip-labs.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, james.l.morris@oracle.com,
serge@hallyn.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Kyle McMartin <kyle@kernel.org>,
David Woodhouse <david.woodhouse@intel.com>,
Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Joey Lee <jlee@suse.de>, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
mricon@kernel.org, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
Abelardo Ricart III <aricart@memnix.com>,
Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>,
keyrings@linux-nfs.org, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] linux-firmware key arrangement for firmware signing
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 12:59:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1432227565.2450.23.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150521164313.GH18164@localhost>
On Thu, 2015-05-21 at 19:43 +0300, Petko Manolov wrote:
> On 15-05-21 16:51:49, David Howells wrote:
> >
> > I do have patches to parse PGP key data and add the public keys found therein
> > onto the kernel keyring, but that would mean adding an extra key data parser.
>
> PGP is widely used so i would gladly have one more parser in the kernel.
>
> > You could probably do this with the integrity functions - but turning them on
> > has a performance cost and you have to load things in the right order as I
> > understand it.
>
> The performance hit is negligible, especially on modern hardware. The problem
> is that Joe user must wrap his head around IMA as a concept and go through the
> pains of doing everything right. Failing to do so will result in a lot of
> frustration, and i speak from experience.
>
> Once you make it run properly it mostly stays out of your way. To put it
> another way: IMA is not for sissies... :)
The main problem today is that software doesn't come and isn't installed
with file signatures. Once file signatures are installed with the
files, then it is just a matter of the machine owner signing the
software's public keys. Dracut (or equivalent) would load the signed
keys onto the trusted IMA keyring.
Mimi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-21 16:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-19 20:02 [RFD] linux-firmware key arrangement for firmware signing Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-19 20:40 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-19 20:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 22:11 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-19 22:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 23:30 ` Julian Calaby
2015-05-19 23:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-20 0:39 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-20 0:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 22:26 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-21 23:15 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-05-21 15:51 ` David Howells
2015-05-21 16:30 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-21 16:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 16:51 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-21 16:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 17:44 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-21 16:43 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-21 16:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 16:58 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-21 16:59 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2015-05-19 21:48 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-19 22:19 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-19 23:37 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-20 0:22 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-20 1:06 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-20 1:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-20 2:05 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-20 2:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-20 15:49 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-20 16:08 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-20 14:04 ` Seth Forshee
2015-05-20 16:24 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-05-20 16:46 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-21 4:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-21 5:41 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-21 6:14 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-21 13:05 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-21 15:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-21 15:53 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-21 16:57 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-26 17:08 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-05-26 19:15 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-26 19:52 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-26 23:06 ` David Howells
2015-05-21 16:03 ` Woodhouse, David
2015-05-21 16:22 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-21 16:31 ` Woodhouse, David
2015-05-21 17:02 ` gregkh
2015-05-21 17:14 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-21 18:23 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-21 18:30 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-21 19:32 ` Woodhouse, David
2015-05-21 17:49 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-21 14:45 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-21 22:50 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-20 20:35 ` Kyle McMartin
2015-05-20 15:08 ` David Howells
2015-05-20 15:47 ` Seth Forshee
2015-05-21 16:23 ` David Howells
2015-05-20 15:14 ` David Howells
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