[PATCH v2] wireless-regdb: update regulatory rules for Russia (RU) on 5GHz

[PATCH v2] wireless-regdb: update regulatory rules for Russia (RU) on 5GHz

[Dmitry Tunin]

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Russian entry is incorrect. According to the last regulations document of Feb 29, 2016,
160 MHz channels and 802.11ad are allowed.

http://rfs-rf.ru/upload/medialibrary/c1a/prilozhenie-1-k-resheniyu-gkrch-_-16_36_03.pdf

Note that there was never a DFS requirement in Russia, but always was
NO-OUTDOOR on 5GHz.
Maximum power is 200mW that is ~23dBm on all 5GHz channels.
Also Russia has never been regulated by ETSI.

Signed-off-by: Dmitry Tunin <hanipouspilot@gmail.com>
---
 db.txt | 10 ++++------
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 37393e6..d95ed5e 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -1097,14 +1097,12 @@ country RS: DFS-ETSI
 	# 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
 	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
 
-country RU: DFS-ETSI
+country RU:
 	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
-	(5170 - 5250 @ 80), (20), AUTO-BW
-	(5250 - 5330 @ 80), (20), DFS, AUTO-BW
-	(5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
-	(5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
+	(5170 - 5350 @ 160), (23), NO-OUTDOOR
+	(5650 - 5850 @ 160), (23), NO-OUTDOOR
 	# 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Changes to NLA 124_Order №129_22042015.pdf
-	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
+	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40), NO-OUTDOOR
 
 country RW: DFS-FCC
 	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
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Re: [PATCH v2] wireless-regdb: update regulatory rules for Russia (RU) on 5GHz

[Seth Forshee]

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:07:26PM +0300, Dmitry Tunin wrote:
> Russian entry is incorrect. According to the last regulations document of Feb 29, 2016,
> 160 MHz channels and 802.11ad are allowed.
> 
> http://rfs-rf.ru/upload/medialibrary/c1a/prilozhenie-1-k-resheniyu-gkrch-_-16_36_03.pdf
> 
> Note that there was never a DFS requirement in Russia, but always was
> NO-OUTDOOR on 5GHz.
> Maximum power is 200mW that is ~23dBm on all 5GHz channels.
> Also Russia has never been regulated by ETSI.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Dmitry Tunin <hanipouspilot@gmail.com>
> ---
>  db.txt | 10 ++++------
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
> index 37393e6..d95ed5e 100644
> --- a/db.txt
> +++ b/db.txt
> @@ -1097,14 +1097,12 @@ country RS: DFS-ETSI
>  	# 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
>  	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
>  
> -country RU: DFS-ETSI
> +country RU:
>  	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> -	(5170 - 5250 @ 80), (20), AUTO-BW
> -	(5250 - 5330 @ 80), (20), DFS, AUTO-BW
> -	(5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
> -	(5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
> +	(5170 - 5350 @ 160), (23), NO-OUTDOOR
> +	(5650 - 5850 @ 160), (23), NO-OUTDOOR

Based on the translation I've read of the document you've linked to as
well as a couple of others, it sounds like the use of these ranges
requires TPC. Since TPC is not supported in Linux, we need to reduce the
max EIRP for these ranges to 20 dBm.

While modifying them, let's also update the 5170-5350 range to 5150-5350
to match the regulations.

Thanks,
Seth

>  	# 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Changes to NLA 124_Order №129_22042015.pdf
> -	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
> +	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40), NO-OUTDOOR
>  
>  country RW: DFS-FCC
>  	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> -- 
> 2.7.4
> 

Re: [PATCH v2] wireless-regdb: update regulatory rules for Russia (RU) on 5GHz

[Dmitry Tunin]

пт, 23 авг. 2019 г. в 22:00, Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>:
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:07:26PM +0300, Dmitry Tunin wrote:
> > Russian entry is incorrect. According to the last regulations document of Feb 29, 2016,
> > 160 MHz channels and 802.11ad are allowed.
> >
> > http://rfs-rf.ru/upload/medialibrary/c1a/prilozhenie-1-k-resheniyu-gkrch-_-16_36_03.pdf
> >
> > Note that there was never a DFS requirement in Russia, but always was
> > NO-OUTDOOR on 5GHz.
> > Maximum power is 200mW that is ~23dBm on all 5GHz channels.
> > Also Russia has never been regulated by ETSI.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Dmitry Tunin <hanipouspilot@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >  db.txt | 10 ++++------
> >  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
> > index 37393e6..d95ed5e 100644
> > --- a/db.txt
> > +++ b/db.txt
> > @@ -1097,14 +1097,12 @@ country RS: DFS-ETSI
> >       # 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
> >       (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
> >
> > -country RU: DFS-ETSI
> > +country RU:
> >       (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> > -     (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (20), AUTO-BW
> > -     (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (20), DFS, AUTO-BW
> > -     (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
> > -     (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
> > +     (5170 - 5350 @ 160), (23), NO-OUTDOOR
> > +     (5650 - 5850 @ 160), (23), NO-OUTDOOR
>
> Based on the translation I've read of the document you've linked to as
> well as a couple of others, it sounds like the use of these ranges
> requires TPC. Since TPC is not supported in Linux, we need to reduce the
> max EIRP for these ranges to 20 dBm.
>
> While modifying them, let's also update the 5170-5350 range to 5150-5350
> to match the regulations.


It is not very clearly stated, but I agree that it looks like TPC.
Where is it stated that we need 20 dBm on these ranges if they require
TPC?
Unfortunately I don't have devices with OEM software certified in
Russia to see what is the limit.

Re: [PATCH v2] wireless-regdb: update regulatory rules for Russia (RU) on 5GHz

[Seth Forshee]

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:08:39PM +0300, Dmitry Tunin wrote:
> пт, 23 авг. 2019 г. в 22:00, Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>:
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:07:26PM +0300, Dmitry Tunin wrote:
> > > Russian entry is incorrect. According to the last regulations document of Feb 29, 2016,
> > > 160 MHz channels and 802.11ad are allowed.
> > >
> > > http://rfs-rf.ru/upload/medialibrary/c1a/prilozhenie-1-k-resheniyu-gkrch-_-16_36_03.pdf
> > >
> > > Note that there was never a DFS requirement in Russia, but always was
> > > NO-OUTDOOR on 5GHz.
> > > Maximum power is 200mW that is ~23dBm on all 5GHz channels.
> > > Also Russia has never been regulated by ETSI.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Dmitry Tunin <hanipouspilot@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > >  db.txt | 10 ++++------
> > >  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
> > > index 37393e6..d95ed5e 100644
> > > --- a/db.txt
> > > +++ b/db.txt
> > > @@ -1097,14 +1097,12 @@ country RS: DFS-ETSI
> > >       # 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
> > >       (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
> > >
> > > -country RU: DFS-ETSI
> > > +country RU:
> > >       (2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> > > -     (5170 - 5250 @ 80), (20), AUTO-BW
> > > -     (5250 - 5330 @ 80), (20), DFS, AUTO-BW
> > > -     (5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
> > > -     (5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
> > > +     (5170 - 5350 @ 160), (23), NO-OUTDOOR
> > > +     (5650 - 5850 @ 160), (23), NO-OUTDOOR
> >
> > Based on the translation I've read of the document you've linked to as
> > well as a couple of others, it sounds like the use of these ranges
> > requires TPC. Since TPC is not supported in Linux, we need to reduce the
> > max EIRP for these ranges to 20 dBm.
> >
> > While modifying them, let's also update the 5170-5350 range to 5150-5350
> > to match the regulations.
> 
> 
> It is not very clearly stated, but I agree that it looks like TPC.
> Where is it stated that we need 20 dBm on these ranges if they require
> TPC?
> Unfortunately I don't have devices with OEM software certified in
> Russia to see what is the limit.

It's not specifically 20 dBm, it's halving the power limit (i.e.
reducing it by 3 dBm).

Seth

Re: [PATCH v2] wireless-regdb: update regulatory rules for Russia (RU) on 5GHz

[Dmitry Tunin]

> It's not specifically 20 dBm, it's halving the power limit (i.e.
> reducing it by 3 dBm).

I suggest to leave it on 23dBm. It is low enough especially for 5650 - 5850.
I am sure that a lot of Linux devices are certified that have this limit.

The TPC mentioned in the reg doc doesn't explain what it means.

[PATCH v2] wireless-regdb: update regulatory rules for Russia (RU) on 5GHz

[Dmitry Tunin]

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Russian entry is incorrect. According to the last regulations document of Feb 29, 2016,
160 MHz channels and 802.11ad are allowed.

http://rfs-rf.ru/upload/medialibrary/c1a/prilozhenie-1-k-resheniyu-gkrch-_-16_36_03.pdf

Note that there was never a DFS requirement in Russia, but always was
NO-OUTDOOR on 5GHz.
Maximum power is 200mW that is ~23dBm on all 5GHz channels.
Also Russia has never been regulated by ETSI.

Signed-off-by: Dmitry Tunin <hanipouspilot@gmail.com>
---
 db.txt | 14 ++++++--------
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 37393e6..068fb5a 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -1097,14 +1097,12 @@ country RS: DFS-ETSI
 	# 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Etsi En 302 567
 	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
 
-country RU: DFS-ETSI
-	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
-	(5170 - 5250 @ 80), (20), AUTO-BW
-	(5250 - 5330 @ 80), (20), DFS, AUTO-BW
-	(5650 - 5730 @ 80), (30), DFS
-	(5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
-	# 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Changes to NLA 124_Order №129_22042015.pdf
-	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)
+country RU:
+(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
+(5170 - 5350 @ 160), (23), NO-OUTDOOR
+(5650 - 5850 @ 160), (23), NO-OUTDOOR
+# 60 GHz band channels 1-4, ref: Changes to NLA 124_Order №129_22042015.pdf
+(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40), NO-OUTDOOR
 
 country RW: DFS-FCC
 	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
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