[PATCH v2] wireless-regdb: update regulatory rules for Kazakhstan (KZ)

[PATCH v2] wireless-regdb: update regulatory rules for Kazakhstan (KZ)

[Dmitry Tunin]

Update according to the regulatory rule of January 21, 2015

http://egov.kz/cms/ru/law/list/V1500010730
https://tengrinews.kz/zakon/pravitelstvo_respubliki_kazahstan_premer_ministr_rk/svyaz/id-V1500010730/

No DFS or TPC is mentioned in the document. Neither is 80 MHz channel width.

Signed-off-by: Dmitry Tunin <hanipouspilot@gmail.com>
---
 db.txt | 14 +++++++-------
 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 37393e6..491598e 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt
@@ -717,13 +717,13 @@ country KY: DFS-FCC
 	(5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
 
 # Source:
-# http://mic.gov.kz/sites/default/files/pages/pravila_prisvoeniya_polos_chastot_no34.pdf
-# http://adilet.zan.kz/rus/docs/P000001379_
-country KZ: DFS-ETSI
-	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
-	(5150 - 5250 @ 80), (20), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
-	(5250 - 5350 @ 80), (20), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW
-	(5470 - 5725 @ 80), (20), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
+# http://egov.kz/cms/ru/law/list/V1500010730
+# https://tengrinews.kz/zakon/pravitelstvo_respubliki_kazahstan_premer_ministr_rk/svyaz/id-V1500010730/
+country KZ:
+	(2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (20)
+	(5150 - 5350 @ 160), (23), NO-OUTDOOR
+	(5470 - 5850 @ 160), (20), NO-OUTDOOR
+	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40), NO-OUTDOOR
 
 country LB: DFS-FCC
 	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
-- 
2.7.4

Re: [PATCH v2] wireless-regdb: update regulatory rules for Kazakhstan (KZ)

[Seth Forshee]

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 09:24:44PM +0300, Dmitry Tunin wrote:
> Update according to the regulatory rule of January 21, 2015
> 
> http://egov.kz/cms/ru/law/list/V1500010730
> https://tengrinews.kz/zakon/pravitelstvo_respubliki_kazahstan_premer_ministr_rk/svyaz/id-V1500010730/
> 
> No DFS or TPC is mentioned in the document. Neither is 80 MHz channel width.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Dmitry Tunin <hanipouspilot@gmail.com>

Thanks for the patch. I don't agree with all of your changes though,
please see details below.

> ---
>  db.txt | 14 +++++++-------
>  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
> index 37393e6..491598e 100644
> --- a/db.txt
> +++ b/db.txt
> @@ -717,13 +717,13 @@ country KY: DFS-FCC
>  	(5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
>  
>  # Source:
> -# http://mic.gov.kz/sites/default/files/pages/pravila_prisvoeniya_polos_chastot_no34.pdf
> -# http://adilet.zan.kz/rus/docs/P000001379_
> -country KZ: DFS-ETSI
> -	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> -	(5150 - 5250 @ 80), (20), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
> -	(5250 - 5350 @ 80), (20), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW
> -	(5470 - 5725 @ 80), (20), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
> +# http://egov.kz/cms/ru/law/list/V1500010730
> +# https://tengrinews.kz/zakon/pravitelstvo_respubliki_kazahstan_premer_ministr_rk/svyaz/id-V1500010730/
> +country KZ:
> +	(2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (20)
> +	(5150 - 5350 @ 160), (23), NO-OUTDOOR
> +	(5470 - 5850 @ 160), (20), NO-OUTDOOR

The documents you provided reference this document:

https://egov.kz/wps/poc?uri=mjnpa:document&language=ru&documentId=V1500010375#z7

Which says that bands 5150-5350 MHz and 5470-5725 MHz should conform to
WRC-12 resolution 229:

https://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-r/opb/act/R-ACT-WRC.9-2012-PDF-E.pdf

This indicates that 5250-5350 MHz and 5470-5725 MHz must either have TPC
or reduce the maximum EIRP by 3 dBm, which for this database means
reducing the maximum power by 3 dBm for these bands. It also states that
these bands must implement the mitigation measures from ITU-R M.1652-1
in these bands, i.e. DFS.

So it appears to me that the existing DFS requirements are correct.
I think 5150-5250 MHz can be raised to 23 dBm, and 5250-5350 MHz needs
to remain at 20 dBm due to the TPC requirement. WRC-12 does mandate TCP
for 5470-5725 MHz, but also a maximum EIRP of 1W, so since 100 mW is far
less than half of that I suspect we can leave that at 20 dBm.

> +	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40), NO-OUTDOOR

This addition looks fine to me.

Thanks,
Seth

>  
>  country LB: DFS-FCC
>  	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> -- 
> 2.7.4
> 

Re: [PATCH v2] wireless-regdb: update regulatory rules for Kazakhstan (KZ)

[Seth Forshee]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 09:48:15AM -0500, Seth Forshee wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 09:24:44PM +0300, Dmitry Tunin wrote:
> > Update according to the regulatory rule of January 21, 2015
> > 
> > http://egov.kz/cms/ru/law/list/V1500010730
> > https://tengrinews.kz/zakon/pravitelstvo_respubliki_kazahstan_premer_ministr_rk/svyaz/id-V1500010730/
> > 
> > No DFS or TPC is mentioned in the document. Neither is 80 MHz channel width.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Dmitry Tunin <hanipouspilot@gmail.com>
> 
> Thanks for the patch. I don't agree with all of your changes though,
> please see details below.

Hi Dmitry - it's been a while since I sent this last email. I wanted to
check if you had any responses to my comments below, or if you intend to
send a v3 patch.

Thanks,
Seth

> 
> > ---
> >  db.txt | 14 +++++++-------
> >  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
> > index 37393e6..491598e 100644
> > --- a/db.txt
> > +++ b/db.txt
> > @@ -717,13 +717,13 @@ country KY: DFS-FCC
> >  	(5735 - 5835 @ 80), (30)
> >  
> >  # Source:
> > -# http://mic.gov.kz/sites/default/files/pages/pravila_prisvoeniya_polos_chastot_no34.pdf
> > -# http://adilet.zan.kz/rus/docs/P000001379_
> > -country KZ: DFS-ETSI
> > -	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> > -	(5150 - 5250 @ 80), (20), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
> > -	(5250 - 5350 @ 80), (20), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW
> > -	(5470 - 5725 @ 80), (20), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS
> > +# http://egov.kz/cms/ru/law/list/V1500010730
> > +# https://tengrinews.kz/zakon/pravitelstvo_respubliki_kazahstan_premer_ministr_rk/svyaz/id-V1500010730/
> > +country KZ:
> > +	(2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (20)
> > +	(5150 - 5350 @ 160), (23), NO-OUTDOOR
> > +	(5470 - 5850 @ 160), (20), NO-OUTDOOR
> 
> The documents you provided reference this document:
> 
> https://egov.kz/wps/poc?uri=mjnpa:document&language=ru&documentId=V1500010375#z7
> 
> Which says that bands 5150-5350 MHz and 5470-5725 MHz should conform to
> WRC-12 resolution 229:
> 
> https://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-r/opb/act/R-ACT-WRC.9-2012-PDF-E.pdf
> 
> This indicates that 5250-5350 MHz and 5470-5725 MHz must either have TPC
> or reduce the maximum EIRP by 3 dBm, which for this database means
> reducing the maximum power by 3 dBm for these bands. It also states that
> these bands must implement the mitigation measures from ITU-R M.1652-1
> in these bands, i.e. DFS.
> 
> So it appears to me that the existing DFS requirements are correct.
> I think 5150-5250 MHz can be raised to 23 dBm, and 5250-5350 MHz needs
> to remain at 20 dBm due to the TPC requirement. WRC-12 does mandate TCP
> for 5470-5725 MHz, but also a maximum EIRP of 1W, so since 100 mW is far
> less than half of that I suspect we can leave that at 20 dBm.
> 
> > +	(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40), NO-OUTDOOR
> 
> This addition looks fine to me.
> 
> Thanks,
> Seth
> 
> >  
> >  country LB: DFS-FCC
> >  	(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (20)
> > -- 
> > 2.7.4
> > 

Re: [PATCH v2] wireless-regdb: update regulatory rules for Kazakhstan (KZ)

[Dmitry Tunin]

> Hi Dmitry - it's been a while since I sent this last email. I wanted to
> check if you had any responses to my comments below, or if you intend to
> send a v3 patch.
>
> Thanks,
> Seth
>

Hi Seth

It looks like you found a lot more information about Kazakh regulations.
I have nothing to add and I agree with your comments. I had troubles
with my storage and I've lost the wireless-regdb tree.
So you can discard my patch or amend it as you like.

Regards,
Dmitry

wireless regdb issue

[Sebastian Gottschall]

i have found something very strange in the regdb. according to various 
sheets and document. channel 165 is not compatible with vht80
in the fcc area. but the regdb doesnt cover this rule. the whole range 
from 5735 - 5835 is set to vht80.

so what is correct?


Sebastian