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From: Gabriel Paubert <paubert@iram.es>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Albert Herranz <albert_herranz@yahoo.es>, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 03/19] powerpc: gamecube: bootwrapper bits
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:17:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091126081724.GA6538@iram.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1259210216.16367.249.camel@pasglop>

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:36:56PM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 22:00 +0100, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > 
> > Sure, the memory controllers don't do coherency.  I'm slightly worried
> > about two things:
> > 1) Will the generic code use M=0 as well?  Is it a problem if it  
> > doesn't?
> 
> We can make it not do it.
> 
> > 2) Do lwarx. etc. work in M=0? 
> 
> They should hopefully... as long as you don't rely on the reservation
> blowing as a result of a DMA write.

Hmm, this really depends on whether the DMA transfers generate bus cycles
that require coherency or not. Not the other way around. M=1 only forces
bus cycles to be snooped by other processors (asserting the GBL signal
on 603/604/750 busses).

The host bridge is free to systematically snoop processor accesses (to make 
sure that data queued in the bridge and not yet written to memory is seen
in the coherent memory domain even if, for example, interrupts propagate 
so fast that DMA target addresses are accessed before it is written to RAM).

On memory coherent systems, the host bridge has to assert the GBL signal,
to force data to be written to memory (for most DMA accesses), or to  
invalidate caches (for full line writes from devices).

	Gabriel

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-26  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 181+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-22 22:01 [RFC PATCH 00/19] powerpc: nintendo gamecube and wii support Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01 ` [RFC PATCH 01/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: usbgecko bootwrapper console support Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01   ` [RFC PATCH 02/19] powerpc: gamecube: device tree Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01     ` [RFC PATCH 03/19] powerpc: gamecube: bootwrapper bits Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01       ` [RFC PATCH 04/19] powerpc: wii: device tree Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01         ` [RFC PATCH 05/19] powerpc: wii: bootwrapper bits Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01           ` [RFC PATCH 06/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: introduce GAMECUBE_COMMON Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01             ` [RFC PATCH 07/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: declare as non-coherent platforms Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01               ` [RFC PATCH 08/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: do not include PCI support Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01                 ` [RFC PATCH 09/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: udbg support for usbgecko Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01                   ` [RFC PATCH 10/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: early debugging using usbgecko Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01                     ` [RFC PATCH 11/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: flipper interrupt controller support Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01                       ` [RFC PATCH 12/19] powerpc: gamecube: platform support Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01                         ` [RFC PATCH 13/19] powerpc: gamecube: default config Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01                           ` [RFC PATCH 14/19] powerpc: allow ioremap within reserved fake ram regions Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01                             ` [RFC PATCH 15/19] powerpc: broadway processor support Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01                               ` [RFC PATCH 16/19] powerpc: wii: hollywood interrupt controller support Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01                                 ` [RFC PATCH 17/19] powerpc: wii: bootmii starlet 'mini' firmware support Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01                                   ` [RFC PATCH 18/19] powerpc: wii: platform support Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 22:01                                     ` [RFC PATCH 19/19] powerpc: wii: default config Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 23:45                                     ` [RFC PATCH 18/19] powerpc: wii: platform support Grant Likely
2009-11-23 20:21                                       ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-24 22:24                                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-25 17:58                                       ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26 22:05                                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-22 22:48                                   ` [RFC PATCH 17/19] powerpc: wii: bootmii starlet 'mini' firmware support Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-23 19:21                                     ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-24 22:13                                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-25 17:47                                     ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26 22:00                                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-22 23:40                                 ` [RFC PATCH 16/19] powerpc: wii: hollywood interrupt controller support Grant Likely
2009-11-23 20:18                                   ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-24 21:54                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-25 17:27                                   ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26  5:23                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 15:42                                   ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26 21:13                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 23:03                                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-22 23:38                               ` [RFC PATCH 15/19] powerpc: broadway processor support Grant Likely
2009-11-23 20:16                                 ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 23:36                             ` [RFC PATCH 14/19] powerpc: allow ioremap within reserved fake ram regions Grant Likely
2009-11-23 20:16                               ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-23 20:41                                 ` Grant Likely
2009-11-23 23:45                                 ` Michael Ellerman
2009-11-24 17:09                                   ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-25  0:38                                     ` Michael Ellerman
2009-11-26  5:22                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 15:35                                       ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26 21:13                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-22 23:34                         ` [RFC PATCH 12/19] powerpc: gamecube: platform support Grant Likely
2009-11-23 20:02                           ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-24 21:39                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-25 17:24                           ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26 21:53                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26 22:07                               ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-27  0:09                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-27 21:35                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-28  3:56                                     ` Grant Likely
2009-11-28  3:56                                       ` Grant Likely
2009-11-22 23:28                       ` [RFC PATCH 11/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: flipper interrupt controller support Grant Likely
2009-11-23 19:59                         ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26  5:18                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 15:33                           ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26 21:12                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 23:00                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26 23:38                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-24 21:30                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-25 17:13                         ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26 21:52                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26 22:05                             ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-27  0:06                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-27 12:17                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-27 17:27                                   ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-27 21:34                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-28  2:04                                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-28  2:26                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26  5:18                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 15:30                         ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26 21:10                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-22 22:27                     ` [RFC PATCH 10/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: early debugging using usbgecko Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-23 19:10                       ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-23 22:13                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-26  5:14                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 22:54                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26 23:27                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-24  0:54                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-24 18:19                       ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-22 23:22                   ` [RFC PATCH 09/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: udbg support for usbgecko Grant Likely
2009-11-24  0:49                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-24 18:08                     ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-24 21:19                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-25 17:07                         ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26  5:12                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 15:28                     ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26 21:02                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 23:12                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-22 23:21                 ` [RFC PATCH 08/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: do not include PCI support Grant Likely
2009-11-26  5:10                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-22 22:20               ` [RFC PATCH 07/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: declare as non-coherent platforms Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-23 19:06                 ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26  5:09               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-22 23:20             ` [RFC PATCH 06/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: introduce GAMECUBE_COMMON Grant Likely
2009-11-23 19:56               ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-24  0:35             ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-24 18:03               ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-24 21:15                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-24 22:33                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-25 17:06                   ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26  5:08                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 15:22                   ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-27 12:12                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-22 23:19           ` [RFC PATCH 05/19] powerpc: wii: bootwrapper bits Grant Likely
2009-11-24  0:33           ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-24 17:56             ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-24 21:13               ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-22 23:18         ` [RFC PATCH 04/19] powerpc: wii: device tree Grant Likely
2009-11-23 19:54           ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-23 20:36             ` Grant Likely
2009-11-23 21:55               ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-25 16:57             ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-25 18:09               ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-25 17:49         ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-25 18:34           ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26  4:58             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 15:19               ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26  4:51           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 15:18             ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26 21:01               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 21:38                 ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26 22:37                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-27  0:16                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-27  0:15                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 23:25                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26 22:50             ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26 23:02               ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26  4:45         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 15:09           ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26 20:48             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 21:20               ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-26 23:17               ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26 22:45           ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-22 23:11       ` [RFC PATCH 03/19] powerpc: gamecube: bootwrapper bits Grant Likely
2009-11-24  0:08       ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-24 17:38         ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-24 21:00           ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-24 23:45             ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-25 16:53               ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26  4:36             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26  8:17               ` Gabriel Paubert [this message]
2009-11-26  8:46                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 23:06                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26  4:35           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 22:23             ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-22 23:02     ` [RFC PATCH 02/19] powerpc: gamecube: device tree Grant Likely
2009-11-23 19:44       ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-23 20:19         ` Grant Likely
2009-11-23 20:25           ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-24 22:53           ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26  4:23           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-27 12:09             ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-24 22:36       ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26  4:23         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 22:15           ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26 22:38             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-27  0:18               ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26  4:21       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26  4:38         ` Grant Likely
2009-11-26  5:29           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26  5:51             ` Grant Likely
2009-11-26 22:30         ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-25 18:00     ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-25 18:43       ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-27 12:07         ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-26  4:27       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-26 22:19         ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-22 22:50   ` [RFC PATCH 01/19] powerpc: gamecube/wii: usbgecko bootwrapper console support Grant Likely
2009-11-26  4:12   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-22 22:48 ` [RFC PATCH 00/19] powerpc: nintendo gamecube and wii support Grant Likely
2009-11-22 22:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-23 19:22   ` Albert Herranz
2009-11-23  5:13 ` Wolfram Sang

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