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From: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add passthrough support
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 19:26:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38b0244d-beb6-3aee-c638-279ca570633c@kaod.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190128061353.GD3237@blackberry>

On 1/28/19 7:13 AM, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 12:07:19PM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
>> On 1/23/19 11:30 AM, Paul Mackerras wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 05:45:24PM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2019-01-22 at 16:26 +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 08:10:05PM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
>>>>>> Clear the ESB pages from the VMA of the IRQ being pass through to the
>>>>>> guest and let the fault handler repopulate the VMA when the ESB pages
>>>>>> are accessed for an EOI or for a trigger.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do we want to do this?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see any possible advantage to removing the PTEs from the
>>>>> userspace mapping.  You'll need to explain further.
>>>>
>>>> Afaik bcs we change the mapping to point to the real HW irq ESB page
>>>> instead of the "IPI" that was there at VM init time.
>>
>> yes exactly. You need to clean up the pages each time.
>>  
>>> So that makes it sound like there is a whole lot going on that hasn't
>>> even been hinted at in the patch descriptions...  It sounds like we
>>> need a good description of how all this works and fits together
>>> somewhere under Documentation/.
>>
>> OK. I have started doing so for the models merged in QEMU but not yet 
>> for KVM. I will work on it.
>>
>>> In any case we need much more informative patch descriptions.  I
>>> realize that it's all currently in Cedric's head, but I bet that in
>>> two or three years' time when we come to try to debug something, it
>>> won't be in anyone's head...
>>
>> I agree. 
>>
>>
>> So, storing the ESB VMA under the KVM device is not shocking anyone ?  
> 
> Actually, now that I think of it, why can't userspace (QEMU) manage
> this using mmap()?  Based on what Ben has said, I assume there would
> be a pair of pages for each interrupt that a PCI pass-through device
> has. 

Yes. there is a pair of ESB pages per IRQ number.

> Would we end up with too many VMAs if we just used mmap() to
> change the mappings from the software-generated pages to the
> hardware-generated interrupt pages?  
The sPAPR IRQ number space is 0x8000 wide now. The first 4K are 
dedicated to CPU IPIs and the remaining 4K are for devices. We can 
extend the last range if needed as these are for MSIs. Dynamic 
extensions under KVM should work also.

This to say that we have with 8K x 2 (trigger+EOI) pages. This is a
lot of mmap(), too much. Also the KVM model needs to be compatible
with the QEMU emulated one and it was simpler to have one overall
memory region for the IPI ESBs, one for the END ESBs (if we support
that one day) and one for the TIMA.

> Are the necessary pages for a PCI
> passthrough device contiguous in both host real space 

They should as they are the PHB4 ESBs.

> and guest real space ? 

also. That's how we organized the mapping. 

> If so we'd only need one mmap() for all the device's interrupt
> pages.

Ah. So we would want to make a special case for the passthrough 
device and have a mmap() and a memory region for its ESBs. Hmm.

Wouldn't that require to hot plug a memory region under the guest ? 
which means that we need to provision an address space/container 
region for theses regions. What are the benefits ? 

Is clearing the PTEs and repopulating the VMA unsafe ? 

Thanks,     

C.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-28 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-07 18:43 [PATCH 00/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add XIVE native exploitation mode Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 01/19] powerpc/xive: export flags for the XIVE native exploitation mode hcalls Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-09  3:33   ` David Gibson
2019-01-09 13:08   ` Michael Ellerman
2019-01-09 13:38     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 02/19] powerpc/xive: add OPAL extensions for the XIVE native exploitation support Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-09  4:26   ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 03/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: check the IRQ controller type Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-09  4:27   ` David Gibson
2019-01-22  4:56   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:24     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  0:50       ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 10:16         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 04/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: export services for the XIVE native exploitation device Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-11  4:09   ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 05/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a new KVM device for the XIVE native exploitation mode Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:05   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:28     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28 17:35     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30  4:29       ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30  7:01         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-31  3:01           ` Paul Mackerras
2019-02-01 17:03             ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  4:25   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 11:19     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:26       ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 06/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a GET_ESB_FD control to the XIVE native device Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:09   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:48     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  4:45   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 11:30     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:28       ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 12:55         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-06  1:23           ` David Gibson
2019-02-06  7:21             ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-07  2:49               ` David Gibson
2019-02-07  9:03                 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08  5:15                   ` David Gibson
2019-02-08  7:58                     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08 21:53                       ` Paul Mackerras
2019-02-09  9:41                         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-11  2:38                           ` David Gibson
2019-02-11  6:42                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-02-12 22:07                               ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 07/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a GET_TIMA_FD control to " Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 08/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a VC_BASE control to the " Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:14   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:56     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  4:49       ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:36         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 09/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a SET_SOURCE " Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  4:57   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 19:07     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:35       ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 13:39         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 10/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a EISN attribute to kvmppc_xive_irq_state Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 11/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add support for the XIVE native exploitation mode hcalls Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:23   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23  6:44     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-23  8:48       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 10:26         ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 10:48           ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:23           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 12/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: record guest queue page address Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:15   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:37     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 13/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a SYNC control for the XIVE native migration Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:17   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:39     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 14/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a control to make the XIVE EQ pages dirty Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:18   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:46     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:30       ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 15/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the source configuration Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:21   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 16:07     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:32       ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 13:03         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-06  1:23           ` David Gibson
2019-02-06  1:24             ` David Gibson
2019-02-06  7:07               ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-07  2:48                 ` David Gibson
2019-02-07  9:13                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08  5:15                     ` David Gibson
2019-02-14 16:50                       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 16/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the EQ configuration Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:24   ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 17:45     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 19:10 ` [PATCH 17/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the VP XIVE state Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 19:10   ` [PATCH 18/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add passthrough support Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:26     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23  6:45       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-23 10:30         ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 11:07           ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28  6:13             ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-28 18:26               ` Cédric Le Goater [this message]
2019-01-29  2:45                 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 13:47                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30  6:20                     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30 15:54                       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-31  2:48                         ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29  4:12                 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 17:44                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30  5:55                     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30  7:06                       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:25           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-24  8:41             ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28  4:43             ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 13:46               ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 19:10   ` [PATCH 19/19] KVM: introduce a KVM_DELETE_DEVICE ioctl Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:42     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 18:39       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:32         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-02-04  5:26   ` [PATCH 17/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the VP XIVE state David Gibson
2019-02-04 18:57     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:33       ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 11:58         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-06  1:19           ` David Gibson
2019-01-22  4:46 ` [PATCH 00/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add XIVE native exploitation mode Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 19:07   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:35     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-26  8:25       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:36         ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 11:31           ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05 22:13             ` Paul Mackerras
2019-02-06  1:18               ` David Gibson
2019-02-06  7:35                 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-07  2:51                   ` David Gibson
2019-02-07  8:31                     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08  5:07                       ` David Gibson
2019-02-08  7:38                         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28  5:51     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 13:51       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30  5:40         ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30 15:36           ` Cédric Le Goater

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