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From: <Alex_Gagniuc@Dellteam.com>
To: <okaya@kernel.org>, <mr.nuke.me@gmail.com>, <keith.busch@intel.com>
Cc: baicar.tyler@gmail.com, sbobroff@linux.ibm.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Shyam.Iyer@dell.com,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, lukas@wunner.de, oohall@gmail.com,
	Austin.Bolen@dell.com, bhelgaas@google.com,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] PCI/AER: Consistently use _OSC to determine who owns AER
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:49:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9c9531c7efb846438f03f744b9afc466@ausx13mps321.AMER.DELL.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 84013a8a-287d-d700-6710-91cc35f507c8@kernel.org

On 11/19/2018 02:33 PM, Sinan Kaya wrote:
> True. I was trying to get it out in a rush. I omitted words.

Sounds like you'd make an top notch spec writer! :p

> However; table assumes governance about for which entities firmware first
> should be enabled. There is no cross reference to _OSC or permission
> negotiation like _OST.

Well, from an OSPM perspective, is FFS something that can be enabled or 
disabled? FFS seems to be static to OSPM, which would change the sort of 
assumptions we can reasonably make here.


>>> As I said in my previous email, the right place to talk about this is UEFI
>>> forum.
>>
>> The way I would present the problem to he spec writers is that, although
>> the spec appears to be consistent, we've seen firmware vendors that made
>> the wrong assumptions about HEST/_OSC. Instead of describing AER
>> ownership with _OSC, they attempted to do it with HEST. So we should add
>> an implementation note, or clarification about this.
> 
> I agree.

Cool. While the UEFI Secret Society debates, can we figure out if/how 
[patch 1/2] breaks those systems, or is it only [patch 2/2] of this 
series that we suspect?

Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-19 23:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-15 23:16 [PATCH 0/2] PCI/AER: Consistently use _OSC to determine who owns AER Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-11-15 23:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] PCI/AER: Do not use APEI/HEST to disable AER services globally Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-11-15 23:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] PCI/AER: Determine AER ownership based on _OSC instead of HEST Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-11-15 23:43   ` Keith Busch
2018-11-16  1:49 ` [PATCH 0/2] PCI/AER: Consistently use _OSC to determine who owns AER Sinan Kaya
2018-11-19 16:53   ` Tyler Baicar
2018-11-19 16:53     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-19 17:32       ` Sinan Kaya
2018-11-19 17:36         ` Keith Busch
2018-11-19 17:42         ` Sinan Kaya
2018-11-19 17:41           ` Keith Busch
2018-11-19 17:56             ` Sinan Kaya
2018-11-19 18:10               ` Keith Busch
2018-11-19 18:24                 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-11-19 19:11                   ` Alex G.
2018-11-19 19:32                     ` Sinan Kaya
2018-11-19 20:16                       ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-19 20:33                         ` Sinan Kaya
2018-11-19 23:49                           ` Alex_Gagniuc [this message]
2018-11-20  1:54                             ` Sinan Kaya
2018-11-20 20:44                               ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-20 21:02                                 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-11-20 21:42                                   ` Keith Busch
2018-11-20 22:28                                     ` Sinan Kaya
2018-11-20 22:35                                       ` Alex G.
2018-11-20 21:46                                   ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-20 22:08                                     ` Sinan Kaya
2018-11-20 22:36                                       ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-27 18:22                                       ` Alex_Gagniuc
2018-11-27 18:32                                         ` Sinan Kaya
2018-11-27 18:46                                           ` Tyler Baicar
2018-11-16 12:37 ` David Laight
2019-03-05 23:16 ` Bjorn Helgaas

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