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* spin_is_locked() broken for uniprocessor?
@ 2009-08-18 22:09 Kumar Gala
  2009-08-18 22:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
  2009-08-19  9:38 ` David Howells
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Kumar Gala @ 2009-08-18 22:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux-Kernel List; +Cc: Thomas Gleixner, linuxppc-dev list

I just want to validate that what I'm seeing (for UP, non-debug  
features):

spin_is_locked() is defined as:

include/linux/spinlock.h:#define spin_is_locked(lock)    
__raw_spin_is_locked(&(lock)->raw_lock)

for UP that should get us:

include/linux/spinlock_up.h:#define __raw_spin_is_locked(lock)  ((void) 
(lock), 0)

which implies to me that spin_is_locked() will always return false.   
Is this expected behavior.

- k

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* Re: spin_is_locked() broken for uniprocessor?
  2009-08-18 22:09 spin_is_locked() broken for uniprocessor? Kumar Gala
@ 2009-08-18 22:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
  2009-08-19  9:38 ` David Howells
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Gleixner @ 2009-08-18 22:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kumar Gala
  Cc: Peter Zijlstra, Linux-Kernel List, Steven Rostedt,
	linuxppc-dev list, Ingo Molnar

On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Kumar Gala wrote:
> I just want to validate that what I'm seeing (for UP, non-debug features):
> 
> spin_is_locked() is defined as:
> 
> include/linux/spinlock.h:#define spin_is_locked(lock)
> __raw_spin_is_locked(&(lock)->raw_lock)
> 
> for UP that should get us:
> 
> include/linux/spinlock_up.h:#define __raw_spin_is_locked(lock)  ((void)(lock),
> 0)
> 
> which implies to me that spin_is_locked() will always return false.  Is this
> expected behavior.

That's wrong. spin_is_locked should always return true on UP.

Thanks,

	tglx

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* Re: spin_is_locked() broken for uniprocessor?
  2009-08-18 22:09 spin_is_locked() broken for uniprocessor? Kumar Gala
  2009-08-18 22:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
@ 2009-08-19  9:38 ` David Howells
  2009-08-19  9:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
  2009-08-19 10:53   ` Alan Cox
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: David Howells @ 2009-08-19  9:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner
  Cc: Peter Zijlstra, Steven Rostedt, Linux-Kernel List,
	linuxppc-dev list, Ingo Molnar

Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:

> > which implies to me that spin_is_locked() will always return false.  Is this
> > expected behavior.
> 
> That's wrong. spin_is_locked should always return true on UP.

Surely it's not that simple?  Maybe spin_is_lock() should be undefined on UP.

David

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* Re: spin_is_locked() broken for uniprocessor?
  2009-08-19  9:38 ` David Howells
@ 2009-08-19  9:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
  2009-08-27  9:32     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  2009-08-19 10:53   ` Alan Cox
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Peter Zijlstra @ 2009-08-19  9:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Howells
  Cc: Steven Rostedt, Linux-Kernel List, linuxppc-dev list,
	Thomas Gleixner, Ingo Molnar

On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 10:38 +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> 
> > > which implies to me that spin_is_locked() will always return false.  Is this
> > > expected behavior.
> > 
> > That's wrong. spin_is_locked should always return true on UP.
> 
> Surely it's not that simple?  Maybe spin_is_lock() should be undefined on UP.

#define spin_is_locked(l) panic()

should sort things out quickly ;-)

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* Re: spin_is_locked() broken for uniprocessor?
  2009-08-19  9:38 ` David Howells
  2009-08-19  9:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
@ 2009-08-19 10:53   ` Alan Cox
  2009-08-19 11:16     ` Leon Woestenberg
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alan Cox @ 2009-08-19 10:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Howells
  Cc: Peter Zijlstra, Steven Rostedt, Linux-Kernel List,
	linuxppc-dev list, Thomas Gleixner, Ingo Molnar

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:38:06 +0100
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> wrote:

> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> 
> > > which implies to me that spin_is_locked() will always return false.  Is this
> > > expected behavior.
> > 
> > That's wrong. spin_is_locked should always return true on UP.
> 
> Surely it's not that simple?  Maybe spin_is_lock() should be undefined on UP.

That would lead to a lot of

#ifdef CONFIG_SMP

#endif

in drivers because there is driver code that uses spin_is_locked() in
fairly sensible fashion when dealing with locking.

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* Re: spin_is_locked() broken for uniprocessor?
  2009-08-19 10:53   ` Alan Cox
@ 2009-08-19 11:16     ` Leon Woestenberg
  2009-08-19 11:23       ` Peter Zijlstra
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Leon Woestenberg @ 2009-08-19 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox
  Cc: Peter Zijlstra, Steven Rostedt, Linux-Kernel List,
	linuxppc-dev list, Thomas Gleixner, Ingo Molnar

Hello,

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Alan Cox<alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:38:06 +0100
>
> in drivers because there is driver code that uses spin_is_locked() in
> fairly sensible fashion when dealing with locking.
>
One use is to measure lock contention hits on a particular spin lock.


However I wonder if there are tracing capabilities to measure lock
contention on a particular lock?

Currently I have inserted code much like this to get a feeling on the
contention:

this_cpu = get_cpu();
put_cpu();
contention = spin_is_locked(&lock);
spin_lock*(&lock);
if (contention) {
  /* spin lock was contended, prev_cpu, this_cpu */
  /* no hard guarantee, as we had a possible race inbetween
is_locked() and lock(), but works for driver/irq spin lock */
}

/* critical section */

prev_cpu = this_cpu;
spin_unlock*(&lock);

Regards,
-- 
Leon

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* Re: spin_is_locked() broken for uniprocessor?
  2009-08-19 11:16     ` Leon Woestenberg
@ 2009-08-19 11:23       ` Peter Zijlstra
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Peter Zijlstra @ 2009-08-19 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Leon Woestenberg
  Cc: Steven Rostedt, Linux-Kernel List, linuxppc-dev list,
	Thomas Gleixner, Ingo Molnar, Alan Cox

On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 13:16 +0200, Leon Woestenberg wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Alan Cox<alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:38:06 +0100
> >
> > in drivers because there is driver code that uses spin_is_locked() in
> > fairly sensible fashion when dealing with locking.
> >
> One use is to measure lock contention hits on a particular spin lock.
> 
> 
> However I wonder if there are tracing capabilities to measure lock
> contention on a particular lock?

lock_stat no good for you?

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* Re: spin_is_locked() broken for uniprocessor?
  2009-08-19  9:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
@ 2009-08-27  9:32     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 2009-08-27  9:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Zijlstra
  Cc: Linux-Kernel List, Steven Rostedt, linuxppc-dev list,
	Thomas Gleixner, Ingo Molnar

On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 11:41 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > which implies to me that spin_is_locked() will always return
> false.  Is this
> > > > expected behavior.
> > > 
> > > That's wrong. spin_is_locked should always return true on UP.
> > 
> > Surely it's not that simple?  Maybe spin_is_lock() should be
> undefined on UP.
> 
> #define spin_is_locked(l) panic()
> 
> should sort things out quickly ;-)

Not defining it would sort things out even faster and avoid nasty case
of system panic'ing when a module is loaded :-)

Cheers,
Ben.

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