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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: gor@linux.ibm.com, jpoimboe@redhat.com, jikos@kernel.org,
	mbenes@suse.cz, pmladek@suse.com, mingo@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, joe.lawrence@redhat.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, tglx@linutronix.de, hca@linux.ibm.com,
	svens@linux.ibm.com, sumanthk@linux.ibm.com,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, paulmck@kernel.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 11/11] context_tracking,x86: Fix text_poke_sync() vs NOHZ_FULL
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 21:25:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211021192543.GV174703@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211021183935.GA9071@fuller.cnet>

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 03:39:35PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> Peter,
> 
> static __always_inline void arch_exit_to_user_mode(void)
> {
>         mds_user_clear_cpu_buffers();
> }
> 
> /**
>  * mds_user_clear_cpu_buffers - Mitigation for MDS and TAA vulnerability
>  *
>  * Clear CPU buffers if the corresponding static key is enabled
>  */
> static __always_inline void mds_user_clear_cpu_buffers(void)
> {
>         if (static_branch_likely(&mds_user_clear))
>                 mds_clear_cpu_buffers();
> }
> 
> We were discussing how to perform objtool style validation 
> that no code after the check for 

I'm not sure what the point of the above is... Were you trying to ask
for validation that nothing runs after the mds_user_clear_cpu_buffer()?

That isn't strictly true today, there's lockdep code after it. I can't
recall why that order is as it is though.

Pretty much everything in noinstr is magical, we just have to think
harder there (and possibly start writing more comments there).

> > +             /* NMI happens here and must still do/finish CT_WORK_n */
> > +             sync_core();
> 
> But after the discussion with you, it seems doing the TLB checking 
> and (also sync_core) checking very late/very early on exit/entry 
> makes things easier to review.

I don't know about late, it must happen *very* early in entry. The
sync_core() must happen before any self-modifying code gets called
(static_branch, static_call, etc..) with possible exception of the
context_tracking static_branch.

The TLBi must also happen super early, possibly while still on the
entry stack (since the task stack is vmap'ed). We currently don't run C
code on the entry stack, that needs quite a bit of careful work to make
happen.

> Can then use a single atomic variable with USER/KERNEL state and cmpxchg
> loops.

We're not going to add an atomic to context tracking. There is one, we
just got to extract/share it with RCU.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-21 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-29 15:17 [PATCH v2 00/11] sched,rcu,context_tracking,livepatch: Improve livepatch task transitions for idle and NOHZ_FULL Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] sched: Improve try_invoke_on_locked_down_task() Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] sched,rcu: Rework try_invoke_on_locked_down_task() Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] sched,livepatch: Use task_call_func() Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-05 11:40   ` Petr Mladek
2021-10-05 14:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-06  8:59   ` Miroslav Benes
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] sched: Simplify wake_up_*idle*() Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-13 14:32   ` Qian Cai
2021-10-19  3:47     ` Qian Cai
2021-10-19  8:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-19  9:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-19 15:32           ` Qian Cai
2021-10-19 15:50             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-19 19:22               ` Qian Cai
2021-10-19 20:27                 ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]   ` <CGME20211022134630eucas1p2e79e2816587d182c580459d567c1f2a9@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2021-10-22 13:46     ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] sched,livepatch: Use wake_up_if_idle() Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-05 12:00   ` Petr Mladek
2021-10-06  9:16   ` Miroslav Benes
2021-10-07  9:18     ` Vasily Gorbik
2021-10-07 10:02       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-13 19:37   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-10-14 10:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 06/11] context_tracking: Prefix user_{enter,exit}*() Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 07/11] context_tracking: Add an atomic sequence/state count Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 08/11] context_tracking,rcu: Replace RCU dynticks counter with context_tracking Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 18:37   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-09-29 19:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 19:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 19:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 19:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 19:45         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-09-29 18:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 09/11] context_tracking,livepatch: Dont disturb NOHZ_FULL Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-06  8:12   ` Petr Mladek
2021-10-06  9:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-06 10:29       ` Petr Mladek
2021-10-06 11:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-06 11:48         ` Miroslav Benes
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 10/11] livepatch: Remove klp_synchronize_transition() Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-06 12:30   ` Petr Mladek
2021-09-29 15:17 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 11/11] context_tracking,x86: Fix text_poke_sync() vs NOHZ_FULL Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-21 18:39   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-10-21 18:40     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-10-21 19:25     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-10-21 19:57       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-10-21 20:18         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-26 18:19           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-10-26 19:38             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 18:03 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] sched,rcu,context_tracking,livepatch: Improve livepatch task transitions for idle and NOHZ_FULL Paul E. McKenney

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