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From: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] livepatch,module: Remove .klp.arch and module_disable_ro()
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 11:45:05 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.21.2004161136340.10475@pobox.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200414190814.glra2gceqgy34iyx@treble>

On Tue, 14 Apr 2020, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 08:27:26PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:28:36AM -0500, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > > Better late than never, these patches add simplifications and
> > > improvements for some issues Peter found six months ago, as part of his
> > > non-writable text code (W^X) cleanups.
> > 
> > Excellent stuff, thanks!!
> >
> > I'll go brush up these two patches then:
> > 
> >   https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20191018074634.801435443@infradead.org
> >   https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20191018074634.858645375@infradead.org
> 
> Ah right, I meant to bring that up.  I actually played around with those
> patches.  While it would be nice to figure out a way to converge the
> ftrace module init, I didn't really like the first patch.
> 
> It bothers me that both the notifiers and the module init() both see the
> same MODULE_STATE_COMING state, but only in the former case is the text
> writable.
> 
> I think it's cognitively simpler if MODULE_STATE_COMING always means the
> same thing, like the comments imply, "fully formed" and thus
> not-writable:
> 
> enum module_state {
> 	MODULE_STATE_LIVE,	/* Normal state. */
> 	MODULE_STATE_COMING,	/* Full formed, running module_init. */
> 	MODULE_STATE_GOING,	/* Going away. */
> 	MODULE_STATE_UNFORMED,	/* Still setting it up. */
> };
> 
> And, it keeps tighter constraints on what a notifier can do, which is a
> good thing if we can get away with it.

Agreed.

On the other hand, the first patch would remove the tiny race window when 
a module state is still UNFORMED, but the protections are (being) set up. 
Patches 4/7 and 5/7 allow to use memcpy in that case, because it is early. 
But it is in fact not already. I haven't checked yet if it really matters 
somewhere (a race with livepatch running klp_module_coming while another 
module is being loaded or anything like that).

Miroslav

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-04-16  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-14 16:28 [PATCH 0/7] livepatch,module: Remove .klp.arch and module_disable_ro() Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 1/7] livepatch: Apply vmlinux-specific KLP relocations early Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 17:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-14 18:01     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 19:31       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-15 14:30         ` Miroslav Benes
2020-04-15 16:29           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-15 14:34   ` Miroslav Benes
2020-04-15 16:30     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 2/7] livepatch: Remove .klp.arch Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-15 15:18   ` Jessica Yu
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 3/7] livepatch: Prevent module-specific KLP rela sections from referencing vmlinux symbols Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 4/7] s390/module: Use s390_kernel_write() for relocations Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-16  8:56   ` Miroslav Benes
2020-04-16 12:06     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-16 13:16       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-17  1:37         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 5/7] x86/module: Use text_poke() " Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 6/7] livepatch: Remove module_disable_ro() usage Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-15 15:02   ` Jessica Yu
2020-04-15 16:33     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-16  9:28       ` Miroslav Benes
2020-04-16 12:10         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 16:28 ` [PATCH 7/7] module: Remove module_disable_ro() Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-14 18:27 ` [PATCH 0/7] livepatch,module: Remove .klp.arch and module_disable_ro() Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-14 19:08   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-15 14:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-15 16:17       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-16 15:31         ` Jessica Yu
2020-04-16 15:45           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-17  8:27             ` Miroslav Benes
2020-04-17  8:50               ` Jessica Yu
2020-04-16  9:45     ` Miroslav Benes [this message]
2020-04-16 12:20       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-17  9:08         ` Miroslav Benes
2020-04-15  0:57 ` Joe Lawrence
2020-04-15  1:31   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-15  1:37     ` Joe Lawrence

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