Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Mitch]

I believe that is the Promise PDC 20736 controller
for which there is no current driver yet. Search in

	http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&r=1&b=200307&w=2

for "20736" and read the thread(s) there.

Cheers
M

Milan Roubal wrote:
> Hi,
> I got one card SATA 150 TX2 plus with version v1.00.0.20 on chip.
> I want to make it working under SuSE linux 8.0. I have downloaded
> drivers from www.promise.com, but driver is not working, because of bad
> major/minor numbers of /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb, .....
> What are the major/minor numbers for making it work?
>
> Or is there any other driver that I should use for making this card =
> working?
> What are major/minor numbers for that drivers?
> Thanks very much for your answers.

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Milan Roubal]

Thanks for the answer, it has got PDC 20375, not
20376, but it changes nothing. As Alan mentioned
here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105440080221319&w=2
promise has got their own drivers. Have somebody seen
this drivers really working? My card is not RAID,
its only controller, I want only see the harddrives.
Thanx a lot
    Milan Roubal

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Mitch@0Bits.COM>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: <roubm9am@barbora.ms.mff.cuni.cz>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus


> 
> I believe that is the Promise PDC 20736 controller
> for which there is no current driver yet. Search in
> 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&r=1&b=200307&w=2
> 
> for "20736" and read the thread(s) there.
> 
> Cheers
> M
> 
> Milan Roubal wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I got one card SATA 150 TX2 plus with version v1.00.0.20 on chip.
> > I want to make it working under SuSE linux 8.0. I have downloaded
> > drivers from www.promise.com, but driver is not working, because of bad
> > major/minor numbers of /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb, .....
> > What are the major/minor numbers for making it work?
> >
> > Or is there any other driver that I should use for making this card =
> > working?
> > What are major/minor numbers for that drivers?
> > Thanks very much for your answers.

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[mru]

"Milan Roubal" <roubm9am@barbora.ms.mff.cuni.cz> writes:

> Thanks for the answer, it has got PDC 20375, not
> 20376, but it changes nothing. As Alan mentioned
> here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105440080221319&w=2
> promise has got their own drivers. Have somebody seen
> this drivers really working? My card is not RAID,
> its only controller, I want only see the harddrives.

Do yourself a favor, and get a Highpoint card instead.

-- 
Måns Rullgård
mru@users.sf.net

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Milan Roubal]

So other question - is there SATA controler that
is working in linux multiple controlers (4 cards)
and is for better bus than standart PCI? Like PCI-X or
PCI 66 MHz like promise is?
Thanks for answer
    Milan Roubal

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <mru@users.sourceforge.net>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus


"Milan Roubal" <roubm9am@barbora.ms.mff.cuni.cz> writes:

> Thanks for the answer, it has got PDC 20375, not
> 20376, but it changes nothing. As Alan mentioned
> here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105440080221319&w=2
> promise has got their own drivers. Have somebody seen
> this drivers really working? My card is not RAID,
> its only controller, I want only see the harddrives.

Do yourself a favor, and get a Highpoint card instead.

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mru@users.sf.net

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Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Larry McVoy]

On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 04:11:32PM +0200, mru@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
> "Milan Roubal" <roubm9am@barbora.ms.mff.cuni.cz> writes:
> 
> > Thanks for the answer, it has got PDC 20375, not
> > 20376, but it changes nothing. As Alan mentioned
> > here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105440080221319&w=2
> > promise has got their own drivers. Have somebody seen
> > this drivers really working? My card is not RAID,
> > its only controller, I want only see the harddrives.
> 
> Do yourself a favor, and get a Highpoint card instead.

I can't speak to the highpoint card, I don't have one of those.  I do have
a 3ware 8500-4 which works great.  I believe that I had to use a later
kernel (2.4.20? .21?) to get it to work but it has been working flawlessly.
I'm using it in RAID 10 mode.
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Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[mru]

Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com> writes:

>> > Thanks for the answer, it has got PDC 20375, not
>> > 20376, but it changes nothing. As Alan mentioned
>> > here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105440080221319&w=2
>> > promise has got their own drivers. Have somebody seen
>> > this drivers really working? My card is not RAID,
>> > its only controller, I want only see the harddrives.
>> 
>> Do yourself a favor, and get a Highpoint card instead.
>
> I can't speak to the highpoint card, I don't have one of those.  I do have
> a 3ware 8500-4 which works great.  I believe that I had to use a later
> kernel (2.4.20? .21?) to get it to work but it has been working flawlessly.
> I'm using it in RAID 10 mode.

The 3ware does real RAID, right?  I think the OP didn't need that.

-- 
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mru@users.sf.net

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Larry McVoy]

On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 05:19:07PM +0200, mru@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
> Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com> writes:
> 
> >> > Thanks for the answer, it has got PDC 20375, not
> >> > 20376, but it changes nothing. As Alan mentioned
> >> > here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105440080221319&w=2
> >> > promise has got their own drivers. Have somebody seen
> >> > this drivers really working? My card is not RAID,
> >> > its only controller, I want only see the harddrives.
> >> 
> >> Do yourself a favor, and get a Highpoint card instead.
> >
> > I can't speak to the highpoint card, I don't have one of those.  I do have
> > a 3ware 8500-4 which works great.  I believe that I had to use a later
> > kernel (2.4.20? .21?) to get it to work but it has been working flawlessly.
> > I'm using it in RAID 10 mode.
> 
> The 3ware does real RAID, right?  I think the OP didn't need that.

The 3ware does RAID or JBOD.
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Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Matthias Schniedermeyer]

On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 04:51:13PM +0200, Milan Roubal wrote:
> So other question - is there SATA controler that
> is working in linux multiple controlers (4 cards)
> and is for better bus than standart PCI? Like PCI-X or
> PCI 66 MHz like promise is?

Highpoint RocketRAID 1540 or 1542.
(www.highpoint-tech.com)

OK, it's not native SATA but a PATA with converters, but at least for me
that a none-issue.




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Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Samuel Flory]

Milan Roubal wrote:

>So other question - is there SATA controler that
>is working in linux multiple controlers (4 cards)
>and is for better bus than standart PCI? Like PCI-X or
>PCI 66 MHz like promise is?
>  
>

  Most current SATA cards aren't faster than 64/66.  Heck many are 
32/66, or 64/33.  The problem is most everyone other than 3ware's linux 
drivers suck.  I can't find a non raid SATA controller than works for me 
under linux.

  3ware cards tend to max out a 64/33 solt around 6 drives for 
sequential IO.  (This will change in their next gen cards)  You get much 
better performance with two 8 port cards running 6 drives each than a 
single 12 port card.  Personally I recommend either 3ware raid10, or 
linux software raid 5 if you're a performance junky.

  Adaptec does have a new 4 port card sata raid card.  It seems to work 
well, and the driver on their cdrom includes around 30 precompiled 
binaries for various RH, MDK, and Suse kernels.  Source for the updated 
aacraid driver is included.   An interesting side note their cdrom seem 
to run linux.  (Yes they seem to provide source/patches for the various 
gpl programs it uses.)

-- 
Once you have their hardware. Never give it back.
(The First Rule of Hardware Acquisition)
Sam Flory  <sflory@rackable.com>

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Marcel J.E. Mol]

On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 03:34:51PM +0200, Milan Roubal wrote:
> Thanks for the answer, it has got PDC 20375, not
> 20376, but it changes nothing. As Alan mentioned

You could try asking the PROMISE Linux support team <support@promise.com.tw>
for their driver.  I have seen a working driver on a 20376 chip with just
one disk connected to it.

-Marcel

 > here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105440080221319&w=2
> promise has got their own drivers. Have somebody seen
> this drivers really working? My card is not RAID,
> its only controller, I want only see the harddrives.
> Thanx a lot
>     Milan Roubal
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <Mitch@0Bits.COM>
> To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> Cc: <roubm9am@barbora.ms.mff.cuni.cz>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 3:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus
> 
> 
> > 
> > I believe that is the Promise PDC 20736 controller
> > for which there is no current driver yet. Search in
> > 
> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&r=1&b=200307&w=2
> > 
> > for "20736" and read the thread(s) there.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > M
> > 
> > Milan Roubal wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I got one card SATA 150 TX2 plus with version v1.00.0.20 on chip.
> > > I want to make it working under SuSE linux 8.0. I have downloaded
> > > drivers from www.promise.com, but driver is not working, because of bad
> > > major/minor numbers of /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb, .....
> > > What are the major/minor numbers for making it work?
> > >
> > > Or is there any other driver that I should use for making this card =
> > > working?
> > > What are major/minor numbers for that drivers?
> > > Thanks very much for your answers.
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Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Milan Roubal]

Where have you seen this card working? Is any contact to sysadmin of that
system?
I asked support@promise.nl, because I am from Europe and now I had send them
configuration of my system and the problem description, so I will see later
if any sollution come.
Thanx for the answer
    Milan Roubal

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcel J.E. Mol" <marcel@mesa.nl>
To: "Milan Roubal" <roubm9am@barbora.ms.mff.cuni.cz>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus


> On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 03:34:51PM +0200, Milan Roubal wrote:
> > Thanks for the answer, it has got PDC 20375, not
> > 20376, but it changes nothing. As Alan mentioned
>
> You could try asking the PROMISE Linux support team
<support@promise.com.tw>
> for their driver.  I have seen a working driver on a 20376 chip with just
> one disk connected to it.
>
> -Marcel
>
>  > here:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105440080221319&w=2
> > promise has got their own drivers. Have somebody seen
> > this drivers really working? My card is not RAID,
> > its only controller, I want only see the harddrives.
> > Thanx a lot
> >     Milan Roubal
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <Mitch@0Bits.COM>
> > To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> > Cc: <roubm9am@barbora.ms.mff.cuni.cz>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 3:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I believe that is the Promise PDC 20736 controller
> > > for which there is no current driver yet. Search in
> > >
> > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&r=1&b=200307&w=2
> > >
> > > for "20736" and read the thread(s) there.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > M
> > >
> > > Milan Roubal wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I got one card SATA 150 TX2 plus with version v1.00.0.20 on chip.
> > > > I want to make it working under SuSE linux 8.0. I have downloaded
> > > > drivers from www.promise.com, but driver is not working, because of
bad
> > > > major/minor numbers of /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb, .....
> > > > What are the major/minor numbers for making it work?
> > > >
> > > > Or is there any other driver that I should use for making this card
=
> > > > working?
> > > > What are major/minor numbers for that drivers?
> > > > Thanks very much for your answers.
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Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Milan Roubal]

Hi,
> Milan Roubal wrote:
>
> >So other question - is there SATA controler that
> >is working in linux multiple controlers (4 cards)
> >and is for better bus than standart PCI? Like PCI-X or
> >PCI 66 MHz like promise is?
> >
> >
>
>   Most current SATA cards aren't faster than 64/66.  Heck many are
> 32/66, or 64/33.  The problem is most everyone other than 3ware's linux
> drivers suck.  I can't find a non raid SATA controller than works for me
> under linux.
>

Heh, bad news for me.

>   3ware cards tend to max out a 64/33 solt around 6 drives for
> sequential IO.  (This will change in their next gen cards)  You get much
> better performance with two 8 port cards running 6 drives each than a
> single 12 port card.  Personally I recommend either 3ware raid10, or
> linux software raid 5 if you're a performance junky.
>
>   Adaptec does have a new 4 port card sata raid card.  It seems to work
> well, and the driver on their cdrom includes around 30 precompiled
> binaries for various RH, MDK, and Suse kernels.  Source for the updated
> aacraid driver is included.   An interesting side note their cdrom seem
> to run linux.  (Yes they seem to provide source/patches for the various
> gpl programs it uses.)
>
> -- 
> Once you have their hardware. Never give it back.
> (The First Rule of Hardware Acquisition)
> Sam Flory  <sflory@rackable.com>
>

All this cards are RAID controllers, I want only SATA controlers and I am
using software raid 5.
I was using Promise TX2 controllers for PATA drives and it was working
great, so I tried
the SATA card from Promise too and it looks only troubles and troubles...
    Milan Roubal

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Milan Roubal]

Wow, how is the performance of this cards? HPT PATA controllers
was always bad in performance and if it has got SATA to PATA converter,
I can't imagine how fast/slow it could be.
    Thanx for the answers
    Milan Roubal

> On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 04:51:13PM +0200, Milan Roubal wrote:
> > So other question - is there SATA controler that
> > is working in linux multiple controlers (4 cards)
> > and is for better bus than standart PCI? Like PCI-X or
> > PCI 66 MHz like promise is?
> 
> Highpoint RocketRAID 1540 or 1542.
> (www.highpoint-tech.com)
> 
> OK, it's not native SATA but a PATA with converters, but at least for me
> that a none-issue.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bis denn

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Milan Roubal]

Yes, I don't need RAID and 3ware 8500 is real RAID card.
Thanks for the answers
    Milan Roubal

>> > Thanks for the answer, it has got PDC 20375, not
>> > 20376, but it changes nothing. As Alan mentioned
>> > here:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=105440080221319&w=2
>> > promise has got their own drivers. Have somebody seen
>> > this drivers really working? My card is not RAID,
>> > its only controller, I want only see the harddrives.
>>
>> Do yourself a favor, and get a Highpoint card instead.
>
> I can't speak to the highpoint card, I don't have one of those.  I do have
> a 3ware 8500-4 which works great.  I believe that I had to use a later
> kernel (2.4.20? .21?) to get it to work but it has been working
flawlessly.
> I'm using it in RAID 10 mode.

The 3ware does real RAID, right?  I think the OP didn't need that.

-- 
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mru@users.sf.net

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Samuel Flory]

Milan Roubal wrote:

>Hi,
>  
>
>>Milan Roubal wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>So other question - is there SATA controler that
>>>is working in linux multiple controlers (4 cards)
>>>and is for better bus than standart PCI? Like PCI-X or
>>>PCI 66 MHz like promise is?
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>  Most current SATA cards aren't faster than 64/66.  Heck many are
>>32/66, or 64/33.  The problem is most everyone other than 3ware's linux
>>drivers suck.  I can't find a non raid SATA controller than works for me
>>under linux.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Heh, bad news for me.
>
>  
>
>>  3ware cards tend to max out a 64/33 solt around 6 drives for
>>sequential IO.  (This will change in their next gen cards)  You get much
>>better performance with two 8 port cards running 6 drives each than a
>>single 12 port card.  Personally I recommend either 3ware raid10, or
>>linux software raid 5 if you're a performance junky.
>>
>>  Adaptec does have a new 4 port card sata raid card.  It seems to work
>>well, and the driver on their cdrom includes around 30 precompiled
>>binaries for various RH, MDK, and Suse kernels.  Source for the updated
>>aacraid driver is included.   An interesting side note their cdrom seem
>>to run linux.  (Yes they seem to provide source/patches for the various
>>gpl programs it uses.)
>>
>>-- 
>>Once you have their hardware. Never give it back.
>>(The First Rule of Hardware Acquisition)
>>Sam Flory  <sflory@rackable.com>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>All this cards are RAID controllers, I want only SATA controlers and I am
>using software raid 5.
>I was using Promise TX2 controllers for PATA drives and it was working
>great, so I tried
>the SATA card from Promise too and it looks only troubles and troubles...
>    Milan Roubal
>
>  
>

  Your best bet may be some silcon image chipset, or the high point card 
that seem to have the same interface as their pata card.  Personally at 
this stage there really isn't any reason to switch to sata.  (Other than 
saner cabling.)  I've yet to see a sata drive, other than the WD raptor, 
that faster than pata drive.  The WD raptors are nearly scsi drive fast, 
but are small cap and pricey.

-- 
Once you have their hardware. Never give it back.
(The First Rule of Hardware Acquisition)
Sam Flory  <sflory@rackable.com>

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Alan Cox]

On Iau, 2003-07-10 at 01:06, Milan Roubal wrote:
> Wow, how is the performance of this cards? HPT PATA controllers
> was always bad in performance and if it has got SATA to PATA converter,
> I can't imagine how fast/slow it could be.

If you are doing software raid its pretty irrelevant. With current
drives the cost of the multiple PCI transfers for each copy of the block
is the limiting factor on anything but PCI64/66Mhz really.

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Milan Roubal]

So what about the main advantage of SATA, that is hot-swap?
Is it possible to make hotswap in the linux and change it for the
same disk? Or is it possible to change it for other disk with other
geometry? Is it depending on SATA controller or I only need
support in the linux kernel? Is there that support for this
controllers/drives?
Thanx for the answer
    Milan Roubal

> Milan Roubal wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >
> >>Milan Roubal wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>So other question - is there SATA controler that
> >>>is working in linux multiple controlers (4 cards)
> >>>and is for better bus than standart PCI? Like PCI-X or
> >>>PCI 66 MHz like promise is?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>  Most current SATA cards aren't faster than 64/66.  Heck many are
> >>32/66, or 64/33.  The problem is most everyone other than 3ware's linux
> >>drivers suck.  I can't find a non raid SATA controller than works for me
> >>under linux.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Heh, bad news for me.
> >
> >
> >
> >>  3ware cards tend to max out a 64/33 solt around 6 drives for
> >>sequential IO.  (This will change in their next gen cards)  You get much
> >>better performance with two 8 port cards running 6 drives each than a
> >>single 12 port card.  Personally I recommend either 3ware raid10, or
> >>linux software raid 5 if you're a performance junky.
> >>
> >>  Adaptec does have a new 4 port card sata raid card.  It seems to work
> >>well, and the driver on their cdrom includes around 30 precompiled
> >>binaries for various RH, MDK, and Suse kernels.  Source for the updated
> >>aacraid driver is included.   An interesting side note their cdrom seem
> >>to run linux.  (Yes they seem to provide source/patches for the various
> >>gpl programs it uses.)
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>Once you have their hardware. Never give it back.
> >>(The First Rule of Hardware Acquisition)
> >>Sam Flory  <sflory@rackable.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >All this cards are RAID controllers, I want only SATA controlers and I am
> >using software raid 5.
> >I was using Promise TX2 controllers for PATA drives and it was working
> >great, so I tried
> >the SATA card from Promise too and it looks only troubles and troubles...
> >    Milan Roubal
> >
> >
> >
>
>   Your best bet may be some silcon image chipset, or the high point card
> that seem to have the same interface as their pata card.  Personally at
> this stage there really isn't any reason to switch to sata.  (Other than
> saner cabling.)  I've yet to see a sata drive, other than the WD raptor,
> that faster than pata drive.  The WD raptors are nearly scsi drive fast,
> but are small cap and pricey.
>
> -- 
> Once you have their hardware. Never give it back.
> (The First Rule of Hardware Acquisition)
> Sam Flory  <sflory@rackable.com>
>
>

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Milan Roubal]

My board is PCI-X for all 6 slots or I can use
PCI 64/66 for all slots. I am looking for cards that
are not slow on this. I have got a working system
with Promise PATA controllers that can read
in software RAID 250 MB/s in sustained read
and more than 150 MB/s random read. I am looking
for same speeds with SATA drives and controllers.
Thanx for the answer
    Milan Roubal

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: "Milan Roubal" <roubm9am@barbora.ms.mff.cuni.cz>
Cc: "Matthias Schniedermeyer" <ms@citd.de>; "Linux Kernel Mailing List"
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>; <mru@users.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus


> On Iau, 2003-07-10 at 01:06, Milan Roubal wrote:
> > Wow, how is the performance of this cards? HPT PATA controllers
> > was always bad in performance and if it has got SATA to PATA converter,
> > I can't imagine how fast/slow it could be.
>
> If you are doing software raid its pretty irrelevant. With current
> drives the cost of the multiple PCI transfers for each copy of the block
> is the limiting factor on anything but PCI64/66Mhz really.
>

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Samuel Flory]

Milan Roubal wrote:

>So what about the main advantage of SATA, that is hot-swap?
>
  Hot swap is really only in the second SATA spec.  Also hotswap is 
generally only support on scsi devices, usb devices, and raid controllers.

>Is it possible to make hotswap in the linux and change it for the
>same disk? 
>
  You used to be able to hot swap with sca scsi drives doing the following:

1)Echo some wierd command to /proc/scsi/scsi to remove the device.
2)Physically swap drives
3)Echo some wierd command to /proc/scsi/scsi to add the device.

See scsi.c 3rd, and 4th instances of the word "echo" for details.

  Of course a number of scsi raid controllers support of replacing of 
failed drives, and automagic rebuild on the new drive.  This requires a 
saf-te backplane, and a saf-te compatible raid controller. 

  In theroy you can do this on a 3ware pata, and sata controller with 
the 7.6 firmware, the 7.6 cli, and ide hotswap backplane.  Personally 
I've never tried it with a jbod drive.

>Or is it possible to change it for other disk with other
>geometry? Is it depending on SATA controller or I only need
>support in the linux kernel? Is there that support for this
>controllers/drives?
>  
>
  If might be possible if you had a controller that supported the 2nd 
sata spec, a hot swap drive carrier and used the ata-scsi driver.  Then 
the same echo trick for scsi might work.  More likely bad things would 
occur.

-- 
Once you have their hardware. Never give it back.
(The First Rule of Hardware Acquisition)
Sam Flory  <sflory@rackable.com>

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Milan Roubal]

Some new info about my problem - when there is no disk drive connected,
the drives loads cleanly. But when I connect the PATA drive (I don't have
currently
SATA disk drive free for testing) I got this message. I got clean SuSE 8.0
installed.
I will write this to promise, any idea what could be wrong? This is the
original promise
driver, now I am going to try the other driver.
Thank you for the answer
    Milan Roubal

PROMISE SATA150 Series Linux Driver v1.00.0.6
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 02:04.0
Drive  5 - WDC WD1000JB-32CWE0    195371567s 100030MB  UDMA5
scsi1 : pdc-ultra
scsi: unknown type 31
  Vendor: ST  0123  Model: 456789ABCDEFGHIJ  Rev: KLMN
  Type:   Unknown                            ANSI SCSI revision: 07
scsi: unknown type 31
  Vendor: ST  0123  Model: 456789ABCDEFGHIJ  Rev: KLMN
  Type:   Unknown                            ANSI SCSI revision: 07
scsi: unknown type 31
  Vendor: ST  0123  Model: 456789ABCDEFGHIJ  Rev: KLMN
  Type:   Unknown                            ANSI SCSI revision: 07
scsi: unknown type 31
  Vendor: ST  0123  Model: 456789ABCDEFGHIJ  Rev: KLMN
  Type:   Unknown                            ANSI SCSI revision: 07
  Vendor:           Model: WDC WD1000JB-32C  Rev:
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
  Vendor:           Model: WDC WD1000JB-32C  Rev:
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
  Vendor:           Model: WDC WD1000JB-32C  Rev:
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
  Vendor:           Model: WDC WD1000JB-32C  Rev:
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi generic sg1 at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0,  type 31
Attached scsi generic sg2 at scsi1, channel 0, id 1, lun 0,  type 31
Attached scsi generic sg3 at scsi1, channel 0, id 2, lun 0,  type 31
Attached scsi generic sg4 at scsi1, channel 0, id 3, lun 0,  type 31
Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 4, lun 0
Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi1, channel 0, id 5, lun 0
Attached scsi disk sdc at scsi1, channel 0, id 6, lun 0
Attached scsi disk sdd at scsi1, channel 0, id 7, lun 0
resize_dma_pool: unknown device type 31
resize_dma_pool: unknown device type 31
resize_dma_pool: unknown device type 31
resize_dma_pool: unknown device type 31
SCSI device sda: 195371568 512-byte hdwr sectors (100030 MB)
 sda:kernel BUG at <bad filename>:14979!
invalid operand: 0000
CPU:    0
EIP:    0010:[<c6880146>]    Not tainted
EFLAGS: 00010046
eax: 0685a000   ebx: 00000018   ecx: c009e000   edx: c009e018
esi: 00000003   edi: 00000004   ebp: c685b400   esp: c69afc44
ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Process modprobe (pid: 443, stackpage=c69af000)
Stack: c685b400 c033f000 c009e000 c31ea61c c1000020 00000004 c688296c
c1792800
       c685b400 00000293 c686dc58 c685b400 c31ea5a0 00000000 c68cf480
c1818000
       c009e000 c01b45ea c686dc00 00000001 00000002 00000800 c68cf480
c009e000
Call Trace: [<c688296c>] [<c01b45ea>] [<c01e3f7d>] [<c01e0b82>] [<c01e56e8>]
   [<c01e6f2f>] [<c01b3c88>] [<c011d02c>] [<c013aa9e>] [<c0129508>]
[<c012954c>]
   [<c012b7f6>] [<c0157fe6>] [<c013c22c>] [<c0158e2e>] [<c0159022>]
[<c014947a>]
   [<c013c5ae>] [<c0157e14>] [<c01195f3>] [<c01eb731>] [<c0157f79>]
[<c0157eb7>]
   [<c01ebdb5>] [<c688006a>] [<c01e1bdf>] [<c688a2a0>] [<c688006a>]
[<c688006a>]
   [<c01e2206>] [<c688a2a0>] [<c6882e1e>] [<c688a2a0>] [<c011a10d>]
[<c6880060>]
   [<c0108833>]

Code: 0f 0b 83 3a 00 74 13 8b 02 05 00 00 00 40 89 42 0c c7 42 10

Re: Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Matthias Schniedermeyer]

On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 02:06:38AM +0200, Milan Roubal wrote:
> Wow, how is the performance of this cards? HPT PATA controllers
> was always bad in performance and if it has got SATA to PATA converter,
> I can't imagine how fast/slow it could be.

For me performance is good.

I don't use it in a RAID configuration but with 4 seperate WD 100GB
HDDs.

Linear througput is 40MB/s (=maximum of this HDD). And when i copy a
file from one of the HDDs to another, the total thoughput is 70MB/s.

I used the same HDDs with a Promise Ultra 100 TX2 before and the
throughput is a bit (i'd say about 5%) better now.

MB: Tyan Thunder HE-SL (Serverworks HE-SL Chipset)
CPU: 2xPIII 933Mhz
The Highpoint is the only connected device to the 66MHz PCI-Bus.

> > On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 04:51:13PM +0200, Milan Roubal wrote:
> > > So other question - is there SATA controler that
> > > is working in linux multiple controlers (4 cards)
> > > and is for better bus than standart PCI? Like PCI-X or
> > > PCI 66 MHz like promise is?
> > 
> > Highpoint RocketRAID 1540 or 1542.
> > (www.highpoint-tech.com)
> > 
> > OK, it's not native SATA but a PATA with converters, but at least for me
> > that a none-issue.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bis denn

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Promise SATA 150 TX2 plus

[Milan Roubal]

Hi,
I got one card SATA 150 TX2 plus with version v1.00.0.20 on chip.
I want to make it working under SuSE linux 8.0. I have downloaded
drivers from www.promise.com, but driver is not working, because of bad
major/minor numbers of /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb, .....
What are the major/minor numbers for making it work?

Or is there any other driver that I should use for making this card =
working?
What are major/minor numbers for that drivers?
Thanks very much for your answers.
    Milan Roubal
    roubm9am@barbora.ms.mff.cuni.cz