From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>
To: Oded Gabbay <ogabbay@kernel.org>
Cc: jason@jlekstrand.net, corbet@lwn.net,
nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
bskeggs@redhat.com, tzimmermann@suse.de, airlied@redhat.com,
"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Matthew Brost" <matthew.brost@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:39:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <038fbef3-1f05-7d94-89b0-0bb681481885@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFCwf10BAfg+_JGzyV0Rgx3WHaOR4vv9hvRXm0b0wW9U6tHSOA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Oded,
sorry for the late response, somehow this mail slipped through.
On 2/6/23 15:48, Oded Gabbay wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 7:24 AM Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com> wrote:
>> Is this not an application issue? Millions of mappings seems a bit
>> absurd to me.
> If I look at the most extreme case for AI, assuming 256GB of HBM
> memory and page mapping of 2MB, we get to 128K of mappings. But that's
> really the extreme case imo. I assume most mappings will be much
> larger. In fact, in the most realistic scenario of large-scale
> training, a single user will probably map the entire HBM memory using
> 1GB pages.
>
> I have also a question, could this GPUVA code manage VA ranges
> mappings for userptr mappings, assuming we work without svm/uva/usm
> (pointer-is-a-pointer) ? Because then we are talking about possible
> 4KB mappings of 1 - 1.5 TB host server RAM (Implied in my question is
> the assumption this can be used also for non-VK use-cases. Please tell
> me if I'm totally wrong here).
In V2 I switched from drm_mm to maple tree, which should improve
handling of lots of entries. I also dropped the requirement for GPUVA
entries to be backed by a valid GEM object.
I think it can be used for non-VK use-cases. It basically just keeps
track of mappings (not allocating them in the sense of finding a hole
and providing a base address for a given size). There are basic
functions to insert and remove entries. For those basic functions it is
ensured that colliding entries can't be inserted and only a specific
given entry can be removed, rather than e.g. an arbitrary range.
There are also more advanced functions where users of the GPUVA manager
can request to "force map" a new mapping and to unmap a given range. The
GPUVA manager will figure out the (sub-)operations to make this happen
(.e.g. remove mappings in the way, split up mappings, etc.) and either
provide these operations (or steps) through callbacks or though a list
of operations to the caller to process them.
Are there any other use-cases or features you could think of that would
be beneficial for accelerators?
- Danilo
>
> Thanks,
> Oded
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-16 16:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-18 6:12 [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 01/14] drm: execution context for GEM buffers Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 02/14] drm/exec: fix memory leak in drm_exec_prepare_obj() Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 8:51 ` Christian König
2023-01-18 19:00 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 03/14] drm: manager to keep track of GPUs VA mappings Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-19 4:14 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-01-23 23:23 ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2023-01-26 23:43 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-27 0:24 ` Matthew Brost
2023-02-03 17:37 ` Matthew Brost
2023-02-06 13:35 ` Christian König
2023-02-06 13:46 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-14 11:52 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 04/14] drm: debugfs: provide infrastructure to dump a DRM GPU VA space Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 13:55 ` kernel test robot
2023-01-18 15:47 ` kernel test robot
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 05/14] drm/nouveau: new VM_BIND uapi interfaces Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27 1:05 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-27 1:26 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27 7:55 ` Christian König
2023-01-27 13:12 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27 13:23 ` Christian König
2023-01-27 14:44 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27 15:17 ` Christian König
2023-01-27 20:25 ` David Airlie
2023-01-30 12:58 ` Christian König
2023-01-27 21:09 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-29 18:46 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-30 13:02 ` Christian König
2023-01-30 23:38 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-01 8:10 ` [Nouveau] " Dave Airlie
2023-02-02 11:53 ` Christian König
2023-02-02 18:31 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-06 9:48 ` Christian König
2023-02-06 13:27 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-06 16:14 ` Christian König
2023-02-06 18:20 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-07 9:35 ` Christian König
2023-02-07 10:50 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-10 11:50 ` Christian König
2023-02-10 12:47 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27 1:43 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27 3:21 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-27 3:33 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 06/14] drm/nouveau: get vmm via nouveau_cli_vmm() Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 07/14] drm/nouveau: bo: initialize GEM GPU VA interface Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 08/14] drm/nouveau: move usercopy helpers to nouveau_drv.h Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 09/14] drm/nouveau: fence: fail to emit when fence context is killed Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 10/14] drm/nouveau: chan: provide nouveau_channel_kill() Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 11/14] drm/nouveau: nvkm/vmm: implement raw ops to manage uvmm Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 9:37 ` kernel test robot
2023-01-20 3:37 ` kernel test robot
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 12/14] drm/nouveau: implement uvmm for user mode bindings Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 13/14] drm/nouveau: implement new VM_BIND UAPI Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 8:37 ` kernel test robot
2023-01-18 20:37 ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2023-01-19 3:44 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-19 4:58 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-19 7:32 ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2023-01-20 10:08 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-18 6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 14/14] drm/nouveau: debugfs: implement DRM GPU VA debugfs Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 8:53 ` [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI Christian König
2023-01-18 15:34 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 15:37 ` Christian König
2023-01-18 16:19 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 16:30 ` Alex Deucher
2023-01-18 16:50 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 16:54 ` Alex Deucher
2023-01-18 19:17 ` Dave Airlie
2023-01-18 19:48 ` Christian König
2023-01-19 4:04 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-19 5:23 ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-19 11:33 ` drm_gpuva_manager requirements (was Re: [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI) Christian König
2023-02-06 14:48 ` [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI Oded Gabbay
2023-03-16 16:39 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
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