RE: linux-2.4.13..

RE: linux-2.4.13..

[Markus Döhr]

> Andy Pevy <andy.pevy@nokia.com> :
> [Compaq Fibre Channel failure]
> 
> Didn't build in -pre either. It compiles fine in -ac. 
> 

See here...

ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/drivers/linux/released/cpqfc/cpqfc_2.1.0_f
or_2.4.10-ac8.patch


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Re: linux-2.4.13..

[Stuart Young]

At 08:17 AM 26/10/01 +0600, Anuradha Ratnaweera wrote:
>IMHO _nothing_ should be done for the final.  A better alternative is to 
>name a stable pre kernel as a final without changes.  In the current 
>scenario, a final kernel release is one which is _not_ tested.

My "personal" opinion is that final's are for Documentation updates, 
correction of spelling errors in comments (not code, which needs testing), 
and *possibly* trivial updates to data files (eg: like 
linux/drivers/pci/pci.ids).

There have been a number of 2.4 issues in finals. Not all of them as 
staggering as 2.4.11, but things like the driver issues with the sblive 
(emu10k1) joystick stuff comes to mind, which was a 'final' addition. 
Admittedly it's not a hugely critical system, but it was fairly visible.

What would also be nice is a list of actual changed files for each patch 
mentioned in the ChangeLog, which if there is a problem between 2 revisions 
of a kernel (wether they're pre's of the same major kernel, or different 
major kernels), could really help pinpoint some problems a hell of a lot 
faster. Doesn't have to be in the ChangeLog, but it'd nice to have about 
(especially for those that don't keep every version of the kernel on disk).

Then again, opinions are like..... *grin*



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Re: linux-2.4.13..

[Anuradha Ratnaweera]

On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:40:26AM +0200, bert hubert wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 10:52:28PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > final:
> >  - page write-out throttling
> >  - Pete Zaitcev: ymfpci sound driver update (make Civ:CTP happy with it)
> >  - Alan Cox: i2o sync-up
> >  - Andrea Arcangeli: revert broken x86 smp_call_function patch
> >  - me: handle VM write load more gracefully. Merge parts of -aa VM
> 
> Why do we do the exciting VM things in 'final'? We are confusing people with
> pre-patches that are better than actual releases!

IMHO _nothing_ should be done for the final.  A better alternative is to name a
stable pre kernel as a final without changes.  In the current scenario, a final
kernel release is one which is _not_ tested.

Cheers,

Anuradha

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Re: linux-2.4.13..

[André Dahlqvist]

Tim Nicholas <cilix@lsd.net.nz> wrote:

> Every time i tried to do anything i got the same error....
> 
> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 62:
> elf_get_dynamic_info: Assertion `! "bad dynamic tag"' failed!

What compiler are you using, and what version of binutils? A recent
binutils in Debian was rather borked, so that might be the problem.
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Re: linux-2.4.13..

[Linus Torvalds]

In article <20011024114026.A14078@outpost.ds9a.nl>,
bert hubert  <ahu@ds9a.nl> wrote:
>
>Why do we do the exciting VM things in 'final'? We are confusing people with
>pre-patches that are better than actual releases!

What's your load? Most of the patches have been in -aa for a longish
while, and people have tended to like them much more than the stock
kernels ;)


		Linus

Re: linux-2.4.13..

[Jan Rekorajski]

On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> 
> Things seem to be calming down a bit, which is nice.
> 
> Of course, it might possibly also be that everybody is off flaming about
> the DMCA and getting no work done ;)
> 
> Whatever the cause, here's a 2.4.13. See if you can break it,

pre6 broke acenic for me, I see tomorrow if final does it also.

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Re: linux-2.4.13..

[Andy Pevy]

On Wednesday 24 October 2001 5:52 am, ext 	Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Things seem to be calming down a bit, which is nice.
>
> Of course, it might possibly also be that everybody is off flaming about
> the DMCA and getting no work done ;)
>
> Whatever the cause, here's a 2.4.13. See if you can break it,
>
> 		Linus
>

I cannot even build it :-((

gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common 
-pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS 
-include /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h   -c -o cpqfcTSinit.o 

cpqfcTSinit.c
cpqfcTSinit.c: In function `cpqfcTS_ioctl':
cpqfcTSinit.c:663: `SCSI_IOCTL_FC_TARGET_ADDRESS' undeclared (first use in 
this function)
cpqfcTSinit.c:663: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
cpqfcTSinit.c:663: for each function it appears in.)
cpqfcTSinit.c:681: `SCSI_IOCTL_FC_TDR' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[2]: *** [cpqfcTSinit.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi'
make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_scsi] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers'
make: *** [_mod_drivers] Error 2
capc1540:/usr/src/linux #

EEK ....

Andy Pevy

Re: linux-2.4.13..

[Francois Romieu]

Andy Pevy <andy.pevy@nokia.com> :
[Compaq Fibre Channel failure]

Didn't build in -pre either. It compiles fine in -ac. 

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Re: linux-2.4.13..

[bert hubert]

On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 10:52:28PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> Things seem to be calming down a bit, which is nice.
> 
> Of course, it might possibly also be that everybody is off flaming about
> the DMCA and getting no work done ;)
> 
> Whatever the cause, here's a 2.4.13. See if you can break it,
> 
> 		Linus
> 
> ----
> final:
>  - page write-out throttling
>  - Pete Zaitcev: ymfpci sound driver update (make Civ:CTP happy with it)
>  - Alan Cox: i2o sync-up
>  - Andrea Arcangeli: revert broken x86 smp_call_function patch
>  - me: handle VM write load more gracefully. Merge parts of -aa VM

Why do we do the exciting VM things in 'final'? We are confusing people with
pre-patches that are better than actual releases!

Regards,

bert

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Re: linux-2.4.13..

[Tim Nicholas]

Hello all, 
I seem to be having serious issues with 2.4.13.
After recompiling and rebooting everything seemed to work fine, but
after having a break to watch Buffy, things seemed to stop
working... 

Every time i tried to do anything i got the same error....

Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 62: elf_get_dynamic_info: Assertion `! "bad dynamic tag"' failed!

I am assuming that this is a very bad thing? It stopped me from doing
anything much. Processes which were already running seemed to be
fine (I was in KDE with mozilla and XMMS running), but other things
like 'w' and ppp no longer worked. I also couldn't reboot cleanly by
using Ctrl+Alt+del.
The problem wasn't happening straight away, but after somewhere
between 10 and 70 minutes of uptime.... 

Am I the only one? I am running a Tbird 900 with 128MB RAM,
debian-unstable. The same kernel configuration (updated with make
oldconfig) worked absolutely fine with 2.4.12.


Yours, 

Tim Nicholas

On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 10:52:28PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> Things seem to be calming down a bit, which is nice.
> 
> Of course, it might possibly also be that everybody is off flaming about
> the DMCA and getting no work done ;)
> 
> Whatever the cause, here's a 2.4.13. See if you can break it,
> 
> 		Linus
> 
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Re: linux-2.4.13..

[Florian Weimer]

christophe barbe <christophe.barbe.ml@online.fr> writes:

> PS: If the DMCA and other scary stuff bother you too much, what about
> exiling in Paris in France ;-)

France is currently on its way to strict crypto regulation. :-/

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Re: linux-2.4.13..

[christophe barbe]

Normally we send only failure reports but after the 2.4.11 and 2.4.12 I
would like to thank you, Linus, for you dedication.
I enjoy the linux kernel as a OS user and as a source code reader (as
far as I can).

2.4.13 builds and boots perfectly for me.

Christophe Barbé ...

PS: If the DMCA and other scary stuff bother you too much, what about
exiling in Paris in France ;-)

le mer 24-10-2001 at 07:52 Linus Torvalds a écrit :
> 
> Things seem to be calming down a bit, which is nice.
> 
> Of course, it might possibly also be that everybody is off flaming about
> the DMCA and getting no work done ;)
> 
> Whatever the cause, here's a 2.4.13. See if you can break it,
> 
> 		Linus
> 
> ----
> final:
>  - page write-out throttling
>  - Pete Zaitcev: ymfpci sound driver update (make Civ:CTP happy with it)
>  - Alan Cox: i2o sync-up
>  - Andrea Arcangeli: revert broken x86 smp_call_function patch
>  - me: handle VM write load more gracefully. Merge parts of -aa VM
> 
> pre6:
>  - Stephen Rothwell: APM idle time handling fixes, docbook update, cleanup
>  - Jeff Garzik: network driver updates
>  - Greg KH: USB updates
>  - Al Viro: UFS update, binfmt_misc rewrite.
>  - Andreas Dilger: /dev/random fixes
>  - David Miller: network/sparc updates
> 
> pre5:
>  - Greg KH: usbnet fix
>  - Johannes Erdfelt: uhci.c bulk queueing fixes
> 
> pre4:
>  - Al Viro: mnt_list init
>  - Jeff Garzik: network driver update (license tags, tulip driver)
>  - David Miller: sparc, net updates
>  - Ben Collins: firewire update
>  - Gerd Knorr: btaudio/bttv update
>  - Tim Hockin: MD cleanups
>  - Greg KH, Petko Manolov: USB updates
>  - Leonard Zubkoff: DAC960 driver update
> 
> pre3:
>  - Jens Axboe: clean up duplicate unused request list
>  - Jeff Mahoney: reiserfs endianness finishing touches
>  - Hugh Dickins: some further swapoff fixes and cleanups
>  - prepare-for-Alan: move drivers/i2o into drivers/message/i2o
>  - Leonard Zubkoff: 2TB disk device fixes
>  - Paul Schroeder: mwave config enable
>  - Urban Widmark: fix via-rhine double free..
>  - Tom Rini: PPC fixes
>  - NIIBE Yutaka: SuperH update
> 
> pre2:
>  - Alan Cox: more merging
>  - Ben Fennema: UDF module license
>  - Jeff Mahoney: reiserfs endian safeness
>  - Chris Mason: reiserfs O_SYNC/fsync performance improvements
>  - Jean Tourrilhes: wireless extension update
>  - Joerg Reuter: AX.25 updates
>  - David Miller: 64-bit DMA interfaces
> 
> pre1:
>  - Trond Myklebust: deadlock checking in lockd server
>  - Tim Waugh: fix up parport wrong #define
>  - Christoph Hellwig: i2c update, ext2 cleanup
>  - Al Viro: fix partition handling sanity check.
>  - Trond Myklebust: make NFS use SLAB_NOFS, and not play games with PF_MEMALLOC
>  - Ben Fennema: UDF update
>  - Alan Cox: continued merging
>  - Chris Mason: get /proc buffer memory sizes right after buf-in-page-cache
> 
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linux-2.4.13..

[Linus Torvalds]

Things seem to be calming down a bit, which is nice.

Of course, it might possibly also be that everybody is off flaming about
the DMCA and getting no work done ;)

Whatever the cause, here's a 2.4.13. See if you can break it,

		Linus

----
final:
 - page write-out throttling
 - Pete Zaitcev: ymfpci sound driver update (make Civ:CTP happy with it)
 - Alan Cox: i2o sync-up
 - Andrea Arcangeli: revert broken x86 smp_call_function patch
 - me: handle VM write load more gracefully. Merge parts of -aa VM

pre6:
 - Stephen Rothwell: APM idle time handling fixes, docbook update, cleanup
 - Jeff Garzik: network driver updates
 - Greg KH: USB updates
 - Al Viro: UFS update, binfmt_misc rewrite.
 - Andreas Dilger: /dev/random fixes
 - David Miller: network/sparc updates

pre5:
 - Greg KH: usbnet fix
 - Johannes Erdfelt: uhci.c bulk queueing fixes

pre4:
 - Al Viro: mnt_list init
 - Jeff Garzik: network driver update (license tags, tulip driver)
 - David Miller: sparc, net updates
 - Ben Collins: firewire update
 - Gerd Knorr: btaudio/bttv update
 - Tim Hockin: MD cleanups
 - Greg KH, Petko Manolov: USB updates
 - Leonard Zubkoff: DAC960 driver update

pre3:
 - Jens Axboe: clean up duplicate unused request list
 - Jeff Mahoney: reiserfs endianness finishing touches
 - Hugh Dickins: some further swapoff fixes and cleanups
 - prepare-for-Alan: move drivers/i2o into drivers/message/i2o
 - Leonard Zubkoff: 2TB disk device fixes
 - Paul Schroeder: mwave config enable
 - Urban Widmark: fix via-rhine double free..
 - Tom Rini: PPC fixes
 - NIIBE Yutaka: SuperH update

pre2:
 - Alan Cox: more merging
 - Ben Fennema: UDF module license
 - Jeff Mahoney: reiserfs endian safeness
 - Chris Mason: reiserfs O_SYNC/fsync performance improvements
 - Jean Tourrilhes: wireless extension update
 - Joerg Reuter: AX.25 updates
 - David Miller: 64-bit DMA interfaces

pre1:
 - Trond Myklebust: deadlock checking in lockd server
 - Tim Waugh: fix up parport wrong #define
 - Christoph Hellwig: i2c update, ext2 cleanup
 - Al Viro: fix partition handling sanity check.
 - Trond Myklebust: make NFS use SLAB_NOFS, and not play games with PF_MEMALLOC
 - Ben Fennema: UDF update
 - Alan Cox: continued merging
 - Chris Mason: get /proc buffer memory sizes right after buf-in-page-cache