From: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
To: Sarthak Kukreti <sarthakkukreti@chromium.org>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@google.com>,
Daniil Lunev <dlunev@google.com>, Evan Green <evgreen@google.com>,
Gwendal Grignou <gwendal@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/8] Introduce provisioning primitives for thinly provisioned storage
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2022 13:01:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0be0e378-1601-678c-247a-ba24d111b934@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG9=OMPHZqdDhX=M+ovdg5fa3x4-Q_1r5SWPa8pMTQw0mr5fPg@mail.gmail.com>
On 9/16/22 11:48, Sarthak Kukreti wrote:
> Yes. On ChromiumOS, we regularly deal with storage devices that don't
> support WRITE_ZEROES or that need to have it disabled, via a quirk,
> due to a bug in the vendor's implementation. Using WRITE_ZEROES for
> allocation makes the allocation path quite slow for such devices (not
> to mention the effect on storage lifetime), so having a separate
> provisioning construct is very appealing. Even for devices that do
> support an efficient WRITE_ZEROES implementation but don't support
> logical provisioning per-se, I suppose that the allocation path might
> be a bit faster (the device driver's request queue would report
> 'max_provision_sectors'=0 and the request would be short circuited
> there) although I haven't benchmarked the difference.
Some background information about why ChromiumOS uses thin provisioning
instead of a single filesystem across the entire storage device would be
welcome. Although UFS devices support thin provisioning I am not aware
of any use cases in Android that would benefit from UFS thin
provisioning support.
Thanks,
Bart.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-16 20:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-15 16:48 [PATCH RFC 0/8] Introduce provisioning primitives for thinly provisioned storage Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-15 16:48 ` [PATCH RFC 1/8] block: Introduce provisioning primitives Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-23 15:15 ` Mike Snitzer
2022-12-29 8:17 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-15 16:48 ` [PATCH RFC 2/8] dm: Add support for block provisioning Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-23 14:23 ` Mike Snitzer
2022-12-29 8:22 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-15 16:48 ` [PATCH RFC 3/8] virtio_blk: Add support for provision requests Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-16 5:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-09-20 2:33 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-27 21:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-09-15 16:48 ` [PATCH RFC 4/8] fs: Introduce FALLOC_FL_PROVISION Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-16 11:56 ` Brian Foster
2022-09-16 21:02 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-21 15:39 ` Brian Foster
2022-09-22 8:04 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-22 18:29 ` Brian Foster
2022-12-29 8:13 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-20 7:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-09-21 5:54 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-21 15:21 ` Mike Snitzer
2022-09-22 8:08 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-23 8:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-29 8:14 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-15 16:48 ` [PATCH RFC 5/8] loop: Add support for provision requests Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-15 16:48 ` [PATCH RFC 6/8] ext4: Add support for FALLOC_FL_PROVISION Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-15 16:48 ` [PATCH RFC 7/8] ext4: Add mount option for provisioning blocks during allocations Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-15 16:48 ` [PATCH RFC 8/8] ext4: Add a per-file provision override xattr Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-16 6:09 ` [PATCH RFC 0/8] Introduce provisioning primitives for thinly provisioned storage Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-09-16 18:48 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-16 20:01 ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2022-09-16 21:59 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-20 7:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <CAAKderPF5Z5QLxyEb80Y+90+eR0sfRmL-WfgXLp=eL=HxWSZ9g@mail.gmail.com>
2022-09-20 11:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <CAAKderNcHpbBqWqqd5-WuKLRCQQUt7a_4D4ti4gy15+fKGK0vQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-09-21 15:08 ` Mike Snitzer
2022-09-23 8:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-09-23 14:08 ` Mike Snitzer
2022-12-29 8:17 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-17 3:03 ` [dm-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2022-09-17 19:46 ` Sarthak Kukreti
2022-09-19 16:36 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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