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From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: fenghua.yu@intel.com, tony.luck@intel.com,
	gavin.hindman@intel.com, vikas.shivappa@linux.intel.com,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V2 11/22] x86/intel_rdt: Associate pseudo-locked regions with its domain
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:17:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0efce774-57a8-40fa-7b8a-6e57e496bb37@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1802200017130.1853@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

Hi Thomas,

On 2/19/2018 3:19 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>> On 2/19/2018 1:19 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Feb 2018, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>
>>>> After a pseudo-locked region is locked it needs to be associated with
>>>> the RDT domain representing the pseudo-locked cache so that its life
>>>> cycle can be managed correctly.
>>>>
>>>> Only a single pseudo-locked region can exist on any cache instance so we
>>>> maintain a single pointer to a pseudo-locked region from each RDT
>>>> domain.
>>>
>>> Why is only a single pseudo locked region possible? 
>>
>> The setup of a pseudo-locked region requires the usage of wbinvd. If a
>> second pseudo-locked region is thus attempted it will evict the
>> pseudo-locked data of the first.
> 
> Why does it neeed wbinvd? wbinvd is a big hammer. What's wrong with clflush?

wbinvd is required by this hardware supported feature but limited to the
creation of the pseudo-locked region. An administrator could dedicate a
portion of cache to pseudo-locking and applications using this region
can come and go. The pseudo-locked region lifetime need not be tied to
application lifetime. The pseudo-locked region could be set up once on
boot and remain for lifetime of system.

Even so, understanding that it is a big hammer I did explore the
alternatives. Trying clflush, clflushopt, as well as clwb. Finding them
all to perform poorly(*) I went further to explore if it is possible to
use these other instructions with some additional work in support to
make them perform as well as wbinvd. The additional work included,
looping over the data more times than done for wbinvd, reducing the size
of memory locked in relationship to cache size, unused spacing between
pseudo-locked region and other regions, unmapped memory at end of
pseudo-locked region.

In addition to the above research from my side I also followed up with
the CPU architects directly to question the usage of these instructions
instead of wbinvd.

In all the testing and questioning I did I was only able to confirm that
wbinvd is required. Its use consistently results in the fewest cache
misses to the created pseudo-locked region.

Reinette

(*) By poorly I mean that accessing the pseudo-locked region created
using these instructions resulted in significant cache misses.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-20  3:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-13 15:46 [RFC PATCH V2 00/22] Intel(R) Resource Director Technology Cache Pseudo-Locking enabling Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 01/22] x86/intel_rdt: Documentation for Cache Pseudo-Locking Reinette Chatre
2018-02-19 20:35   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-19 22:15     ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-19 22:19       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-19 22:24         ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-19 21:27   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-02-19 22:21     ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 02/22] x86/intel_rdt: Make useful functions available internally Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 03/22] x86/intel_rdt: Introduce hooks to create pseudo-locking files Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 04/22] x86/intel_rdt: Introduce test to determine if closid is in use Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 05/22] x86/intel_rdt: Print more accurate pseudo-locking availability Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 06/22] x86/intel_rdt: Create pseudo-locked regions Reinette Chatre
2018-02-19 20:57   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-19 23:02     ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-19 23:16       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20  3:21         ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 07/22] x86/intel_rdt: Connect pseudo-locking directory to operations Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 08/22] x86/intel_rdt: Introduce pseudo-locking resctrl files Reinette Chatre
2018-02-19 21:01   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 09/22] x86/intel_rdt: Discover supported platforms via prefetch disable bits Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 10/22] x86/intel_rdt: Disable pseudo-locking if CDP enabled Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 11/22] x86/intel_rdt: Associate pseudo-locked regions with its domain Reinette Chatre
2018-02-19 21:19   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-19 23:00     ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-19 23:19       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20  3:17         ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2018-02-20 10:00           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 16:02             ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-20 17:18               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 12/22] x86/intel_rdt: Support CBM checking from value and character buffer Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 13/22] x86/intel_rdt: Support schemata write - pseudo-locking core Reinette Chatre
2018-02-20 17:15   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 18:47     ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-20 23:21       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-21  1:58         ` Mike Kravetz
2018-02-21  6:10           ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-21  8:34           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-21  5:58         ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-27  0:34     ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-27 10:36       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-27 15:38         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-27 19:52         ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-27 21:33           ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-28 18:39           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-28 19:17             ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-28 19:40               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-27 21:01     ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-28 17:57       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-28 17:59         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-28 18:34           ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-28 18:42             ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 14/22] x86/intel_rdt: Enable testing for pseudo-locked region Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH V2 15/22] x86/intel_rdt: Prevent new allocations from pseudo-locked regions Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:47 ` [RFC PATCH V2 16/22] x86/intel_rdt: Create debugfs files for pseudo-locking testing Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:47 ` [RFC PATCH V2 17/22] x86/intel_rdt: Create character device exposing pseudo-locked region Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:47 ` [RFC PATCH V2 18/22] x86/intel_rdt: More precise L2 hit/miss measurements Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:47 ` [RFC PATCH V2 19/22] x86/intel_rdt: Support L3 cache performance event of Broadwell Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:47 ` [RFC PATCH V2 20/22] x86/intel_rdt: Limit C-states dynamically when pseudo-locking active Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:47 ` [RFC PATCH V2 21/22] mm/hugetlb: Enable large allocations through gigantic page API Reinette Chatre
2018-02-13 15:47 ` [RFC PATCH V2 22/22] x86/intel_rdt: Support contiguous memory of all sizes Reinette Chatre
2018-02-14 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH V2 00/22] Intel(R) Resource Director Technology Cache Pseudo-Locking enabling Mike Kravetz
2018-02-14 18:31   ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-15 20:39     ` Reinette Chatre
2018-02-15 21:10       ` Mike Kravetz

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