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From: Paul Fulghum <paulkf@microgate.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	johannes@erdfelt.com
Subject: Re: 2.5.69 Interrupt Latency
Date: 12 May 2003 12:49:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1052761769.1995.27.camel@diemos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030512173023.GB28381@kroah.com>

On Mon, 2003-05-12 at 12:30, Greg KH wrote:
> > Should the 20ms delay be in the ISR though?
> > I thought it was standard practice to move such
> > lengthy operations outside of the ISR so as not to
> > impact interrupt latency for the system.
> 
> This should only happen when the hardware is suspended, and we are being
> woken up by a device.  So this should be a _very_ rare occurance, and
> when it does happen, the latency isn't that big of a deal (we need it to
> wake up the hardware properly.)

So you feel interrupt latency does not matter when
a machine is waking up? I'm not particularly worried
about that situation, so I won't argue that.

How about some sort of sanity check (as you mentioned
earlier), so this is not shooting off all of the time
during normal operation.

> > There are no USB devices attached to the server.
> > There are no actual USB connectors, and the
> > server's specs do not list USB. There is no
> > option to enable/disable USB in the BIOS.
> 
> Heh, then I would suggest not loading this driver at all.  It sounds
> like you have an internal USB controller that probably does not have
> properly terminated connectors.

Maybe.

But most distributions have the USB driver loaded by
default, so if this new change stays as is, it will silently
cause erratic problems for such machines (with unused
USB controllers on the mainboard).

Then this investigation will be repeated over and over
by end users and anyone trying to support latency
sensitive devices (such as standard serial ports) on Linux.

So either a sanity check to prevent unnecessary
calls to this delay, or recoding the delay so it
does not run in the ISR and kill interrupt latency
would be the correct thing to do.

-- 
Paul Fulghum, paulkf@microgate.com
Microgate Corporation, http://www.microgate.com



  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-12 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-07 16:12 2.5.69 Interrupt Latency Paul Fulghum
2003-05-07 19:41 ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-07 22:28   ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-08  0:25     ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-08 13:56     ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-08 19:22       ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-08 19:35         ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-08 23:20           ` Brian Gerst
2003-05-09 18:12         ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-09 20:30           ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-09 21:28             ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-12 13:57               ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-12 14:06                 ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-12 16:24                 ` Greg KH
2003-05-12 17:08                   ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-12 17:30                     ` Greg KH
2003-05-12 17:49                       ` Paul Fulghum [this message]
2003-05-12 18:01                         ` Greg KH
2003-05-12 18:15                           ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-13 15:26                       ` Alan Stern
2003-05-13 15:35                         ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-13 17:30                           ` Greg KH
2003-05-13 13:01                             ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-13 18:09                               ` Greg KH
2003-05-13 18:11                                 ` Greg KH
2003-05-13 21:35                                   ` Alan Stern
2003-05-13 21:48                                     ` Helge Hafting
2003-05-13 22:09                                       ` Alan Stern
2003-05-14 21:06                                   ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-14 21:15                                     ` Johannes Erdfelt
2003-05-14 21:30                                     ` Greg KH
2003-05-14 21:45                                       ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-13 20:17                           ` Bill Davidsen
2003-05-13 22:39                             ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-14 20:52                           ` Test Patch: " Alan Stern
2003-05-15 13:45                             ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-15 14:12                             ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-15 21:07                               ` Alan Stern
2003-05-15 15:26                             ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-15 18:11                               ` Alan Stern
2003-05-15 18:40                                 ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-15 19:42                                 ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-15 19:59                                   ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-15 21:13                                   ` Alan Stern
2003-05-15 21:30                                     ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-15 19:17                                       ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-16 15:33                                         ` Alan Stern
2003-05-16 15:58                                           ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-16 16:18                                             ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-16 17:16                                               ` Alan Stern
2003-05-16 17:48                                                 ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-16 18:31                                                   ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-16 18:40                                                   ` Alan Stern
2003-05-16 19:05                                                     ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-18  0:57                                                     ` Andrew McGregor
2003-05-16 17:20                                             ` Alan Stern
2003-05-16 17:51                                               ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-19 16:41                                             ` Alan Stern
2003-05-19 18:20                                               ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-19 18:49                                                 ` Alan Stern
2003-05-16 18:10                                           ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-14 17:50               ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-09 21:07           ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-09 21:28             ` Paul Fulghum
2003-05-08 14:47     ` Paul Fulghum
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     [not found]       ` <20030508193016$1083@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <20030509182012$49f0@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <20030509204010$3c9b@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-05-09 21:06             ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-05-09 21:25               ` Paul Fulghum

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