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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
	"Mudama, Eric" <eric_mudama@maxtor.com>,
	Oleg Drokin <green@namesys.com>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>,
	Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
	lkhelp@rekl.yi.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.5.69, IDE TCQ can't be enabled
Date: 13 May 2003 23:55:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1052866550.1205.13.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10305131256240.2718-100000@master.linux-ide.org>

On Maw, 2003-05-13 at 21:03, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> Not a single OS (linux included) can deal with a error in flush cache, 
> much less an error from a previous tagged request.

To be reasonable its not clear what you can do when a flush cache fails. The
only cases I can see you can handle anything intelligently are drive side but
even those are not clear. If the drive flushes all the blocks it can get
to disk its really the same as a fatal write error except we have less idea how
to recover and have already lost the data.

For the cases it matters you turn off write cache and we (maybe SATA time mostly)
get tcq working properly.

This is the same issue as with SCSI. SCSI has a whole rats nest of things that
seem to exist solely to screw up error recovery 8)


  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-13 23:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-12 19:19 2.5.69, IDE TCQ can't be enabled Mudama, Eric
2003-05-12 19:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-12 19:42   ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-12 19:44     ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-12 19:53     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-13  6:40       ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-13 18:00         ` Dave Jones
2003-05-13 18:03           ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-13 18:05             ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-13 18:06               ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-13 18:13                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-13 18:42                   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-13 20:29                     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-05-14  7:04                       ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-14  7:15                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-13 20:03                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-05-13 22:55                     ` Alan Cox [this message]
2003-05-13 18:03           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-14 13:30           ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-05-12 22:36     ` Christer Weinigel
2003-05-13  6:41       ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-13 20:04 ` Bill Davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-13 20:43 Mudama, Eric
2003-05-13 20:31 Mudama, Eric
2003-05-13 20:34 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-05-13 20:28 Mudama, Eric
2003-05-12 17:58 Mudama, Eric
2003-05-12 18:59 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-12 19:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-10  1:38 lkhelp
2003-05-12 12:46 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-05-12 12:55   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-05-12 13:16     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-05-12 13:12       ` Alan Cox
2003-05-13 15:39         ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-12 13:22       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-05-12 13:23         ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-12 13:35           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-12 13:30         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-05-12 13:22       ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-13 15:32       ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-13 17:25         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-05-13 17:28           ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-13 18:46             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-05-13 19:06               ` Jens Axboe

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