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From: "Shaheed R. Haque" <srhaque@iee.org>
To: Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@linuxpower.ca>
Cc: "Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky" <inaky.perez-gonzalez@intel.com>,
	"'Andrew Morton'" <akpm@digeo.com>,
	"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: 2.6 must-fix list, v2
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 13:05:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1052913905.3ec230f1b8337@netmail.pipex.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.50.0305132238550.14103-100000@montezuma.mastecende.com>


Quoting Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@linuxpower.ca>:

> Not really, during load your reserved cpu will now have to wait longer 
> for shared resources instead of helping make progress, bringing down the
> performance of all your applications including the 'realtime' one.

Of course you are right in the general case. But as long as one has correctly 
sized the load so that it does NOT exceed the dedicated CPUs, and one has 
reserved the right resources, then it can help the stability of the soft-
realtime applications that are of interest to me.

So, in my case, using dedicated raw-ish disks, pinned memory, dedicated CPUs 
and the understanding that the kernel has absolute priority over userspace (and 
so is never a worse bottleneck than usual), it all works. Also, my application 
maximises the probability of success by explictly managing the resources which 
*are* shared between the time-sensitive code and the relevant "joe-random" code.

Can I be certain that there is no shared lock or anything else in the whole 
kernel? No, but I'm prepared to make that probabalistic tradeoff (backed via 
extensive testing) rather than have to go to hard-realtime.

Thanks, Shaheed



  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-14 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-14  2:05 2.6 must-fix list, v2 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-05-14  2:43 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-14 12:05   ` Shaheed R. Haque [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-14 18:21 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-05-13 20:04 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-13 17:12 James Bottomley
2003-05-13 18:11 ` Mike Anderson
2003-05-13 18:18   ` James Bottomley
2003-05-13 19:14     ` Mike Anderson
     [not found] <20030512155417.67a9fdec.akpm@digeo.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <20030512155511.21fb1652.akpm@digeo.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-05-13  6:00   ` Andi Kleen
2003-05-13  1:57 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-12 22:54 Andrew Morton
2003-05-12 22:55 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-13  4:05   ` viro
2003-05-13  5:00     ` Greg KH
2003-05-13 11:36   ` Trond Myklebust
2003-05-13 13:57     ` Dave Jones
2003-05-13 15:16       ` Trond Myklebust
2003-05-13 15:22         ` Dave Jones
2003-05-13 15:32           ` Trond Myklebust
2003-05-13 15:47             ` Dave Jones
2003-05-13 16:02               ` Trond Myklebust
2003-05-13 16:09                 ` Dave Jones
2003-05-13 16:27                   ` Trond Myklebust
2003-05-13 16:45                     ` Dave McCracken
2003-05-13 16:53                       ` Trond Myklebust
2003-05-13 22:50                         ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-13 17:38                 ` Dave Jones
2003-05-13 17:59                   ` Trond Myklebust
2003-05-13 15:59     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-13 16:11       ` Trond Myklebust
2003-05-13 18:09         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-13 20:15         ` Chris Friesen
2003-05-13 20:25           ` Trond Myklebust
2003-05-13 13:57   ` Alan Cox
2003-05-13 15:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-13 15:12       ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-13 15:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-13 15:50       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-13 16:59         ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-05-13 20:07           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-05-13 20:12             ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-05-13 19:51       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-05-13 20:17       ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-13 22:25         ` Dave Jones
2003-05-13 22:52           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-13 23:43           ` Russell King
2003-05-14  8:09             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]         ` <mailman.1052866140.9783.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2003-05-14  2:32           ` Pete Zaitcev
2003-05-14 16:21         ` Tom Rini
2003-05-17  8:58       ` Pavel Machek
2003-05-13 15:47     ` Trond Myklebust
2003-05-13 15:06       ` Alan Cox
2003-05-13 16:20         ` Trond Myklebust
2003-05-13 17:52       ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-05-13 18:11         ` Trond Myklebust
2003-05-17  8:56     ` Pavel Machek
2003-05-13  0:22 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 11:20 Processor sets (pset) for linux kernel 2.5/2.6? Shaheed R. Haque
2003-04-12 19:56 ` Shaheed R. Haque
2003-04-12 20:02   ` Robert Love
2003-04-13  8:30     ` Shaheed R. Haque
2003-04-13 14:28       ` Robert Love
2003-05-13 11:49         ` 2.6 must-fix list, v2 Shaheed R. Haque
2003-05-13 20:02           ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-13 22:46             ` Shaheed R. Haque
2003-05-14  2:42               ` Steven Cole
2003-05-14 11:49                 ` Shaheed R. Haque
2003-05-14 13:08                   ` Steven Cole
2003-05-13 22:49             ` Shaheed R. Haque
2003-05-14 11:02               ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-05-14 15:59                 ` Robert Love
2003-05-14 16:04                   ` Robert Love
2003-05-14 21:01                   ` shaheed
2003-05-14 21:15                     ` Robert Love
2003-05-15  9:19                       ` Shaheed R. Haque
2003-05-15 15:32                         ` Robert Love
2003-05-15 20:07                           ` shaheed
2003-05-15 20:20                             ` Robert Love
2003-05-15 20:24                             ` Robert Love
2003-05-15 21:30                               ` shaheed

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