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From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: jimwclark@ntlworld.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Driver Model
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 15:13:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1062530030.29020.16.camel@boobies.awol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200309021943.15875.jimwclark@ntlworld.com>

On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 14:43, James Clark wrote:

> 1. Will the move to a more uniform driver model in 2.6 increase the chances of 
> a given binary driver working with a 2.6+ kernel. 

I don't see how.

> 2. Will the new model reduce the use/need for kernel modules.

No.  The two concepts are really unrelated.

> 3. Will the practice of deliberately breaking some binary only 'tainted' 
> modules prevent take up of Linux. Isn't this taking things too far?

Tainted modules are not "broken" -- they just display a "tainted"
message.  We do not do things to deliberately break binary-only modules.

The driver model has four main benefits, in my eyes:

	- unifies code between the previous desperate driver models
	- creates a device topology, which is needed for power 
	  management
	- allows for things like sysfs and other logical device
	  representations
	- it is just the Right Way to do it

None of your questions are related to the driver model, really.  It is
not a new uniform driver API, if that is what you are thinking.  It is 
a topology/hierarchal abstraction for devices.

	Robert Love



  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-02 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-02 18:43 Driver Model James Clark
2003-09-02 19:13 ` Robert Love [this message]
2003-09-02 20:44 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-09-03 14:36   ` Stuart MacDonald
2003-09-03 14:52     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-09-03 14:57     ` Alan Cox
2003-09-03 15:13       ` Stuart MacDonald
2003-09-03 15:33         ` Mariusz Zielinski
2003-09-03 15:50           ` Stuart MacDonald
2003-09-03 16:02             ` Mariusz Zielinski
2003-09-03 17:58               ` Stuart MacDonald
2003-09-03 16:58             ` Alan Cox
2003-09-03 18:21               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-03 15:50           ` Mariusz Zielinski
2003-09-03 22:41       ` David Schwartz
2003-09-04 11:03         ` Alan Cox
2003-09-03 15:22     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-09-02 21:29 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-02 21:44   ` James Clark
2003-09-02 22:05     ` Greg KH
2003-09-02 22:08     ` Robert Love
2003-09-02 22:39     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-02 23:52 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-03  0:20   ` David Schwartz
2003-09-03 17:38     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-03 18:19       ` Alan Cox
2003-09-03 18:15         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-04 12:40       ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-03 13:10 ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <rtHg.3n0.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <rK5y.1xN.25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-03 18:42   ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-03 19:49     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-03 22:41     ` David Schwartz
2003-09-03 23:11       ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-03 23:33         ` David Schwartz
2003-09-04  1:38           ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-04  3:01             ` David Schwartz
2003-09-04 14:21               ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-04  1:37         ` Andre Hedrick

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