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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.5isms
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:58:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1104656340.4185.5.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41D743BE.3060207@yahoo.com.au>


> 
> I'm curious about a couple of points though. First, is that it is basically
> just adding a cache colouring to the stack, right? In that case why do only
> older HT CPUs have bad performance without it? And wouldn't it possibly make
> even non HT CPUs possibly slightly more efficient WRT caching the stacks of
> multiple processes?

it's a win on more than older HT cpus. It's just that those suffer it
the most... (since there you have 2 "cpus" share the cache, meaning you
get double the aliasing)


> Second, on what workloads does performance suffer, can you remember? I wonder
> if natural variations in the stack pointer as the program runs would mitigate
> the effect of this on all but micro benchmarks?

one of the problem cases I remember is network daemons all waiting in
accept() for connections. All from the same codepath basically.
Randomizing the stackpointer is a gain for that on all cpus that have
finite affinity on their caches.


> But even if that were so so, it seems simple enough that I don't have any
> real problem with keeping it of course.

The reason my patch does it much more is that it makes it a step harder
to write exploits for stack buffer overflows. 


  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-02  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-31 23:06 2.5isms Justin Pryzby
2005-01-01  2:34 ` 2.5isms Nick Piggin
2005-01-01  8:40   ` 2.5isms Arjan van de Ven
2005-01-01  9:13   ` 2.5isms Andi Kleen
2005-01-02  0:43     ` 2.5isms Nick Piggin
2005-01-02  8:58       ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2005-01-03  0:49         ` 2.5isms Nick Piggin
2005-01-02 12:04       ` 2.5isms Andi Kleen
2005-01-03  0:44         ` 2.5isms Nick Piggin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-03 20:01 "Will be removed in 2.4" Justin Pryzby
2003-12-30 21:30 ` 2.5isms Justin Pryzby
2004-01-03 15:18   ` 2.5isms Pavel Machek
2004-01-07  7:28   ` 2.5isms Justin Pryzby
2004-03-29 15:40   ` 2.5isms Pavel Machek

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