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From: John McCutchan <john@johnmccutchan.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	holt@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rml@novell.com,
	arnd@arndb.de, hch@lst.de, Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: udevd is killing file write performance.
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:55:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1140972918.15634.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43FEB0BF.6080403@yahoo.com.au>

On Fri, 2006-24-02 at 18:07 +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > John McCutchan <john@johnmccutchan.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> > > @@ -538,7 +537,7 @@
> >> > >  	struct dentry *parent;
> >> > >  	struct inode *inode;
> >> > >  
> >> > > -	if (!atomic_read (&inotify_watches))
> >> > > +	if (!atomic_read (&dentry->d_sb->s_inotify_watches))
> >> > >  		return;
> >> > >  
> >> > 
> >> > What happens here if we're watching a mountpoint - the parent is on a
> >> > different fs?
> >>
> >> There are four cases to consider here.
> >>
> >> Case 1: parent fs watched and child fs watched
> >> 	correct results
> >> Case 2: parent fs watched and child fs not watched
> >> 	We may not deliver an event that should be delivered.
> >> Case 3: parent fs not watched and child fs watched
> >> 	We take d_lock when we don't need to
> >> Case 4: parent fs not watched and child fs not watched
> >> 	correct results
> >>
> >> Case 2 screws us. We have to take the lock to even look at the parent's
> >> dentry->d_sb->s_inotify_watches. I don't know of a way around this one.
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah.  There are a lot of "screw"s in this thread.
> > 
> > I wonder if RCU can save us - if we do an rcu_read_lock() we at least know
> > that the dentries won't get deallocated.  Then we can take a look at
> > d_parent (which might not be the parent any more).  Once in a million years
> > we might send a false event or miss sending an event, depending on where
> > our dentry suddenly got moved to.  Not very nice, but at least it won't
> > oops.
> > 
> > (hopefully cc's Dipankar)
> 
> I saw this problem when testing my lockless pagecache a while back.
> 
> Attached is a first implementation of what was my idea then of how
> to solve it... note it is pretty rough and I never got around to doing
> much testing of it.
> 
> Basically: moves work out of inotify event time and to inotify attach
> /detach time while staying out of the core VFS.


This looks really good. There might be some corner cases but it looks
like it will solve this problem nicely.

-- 
John McCutchan <john@johnmccutchan.com>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-02-26 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-22 13:42 udevd is killing file write performance Robin Holt
2006-02-22 13:55 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22 16:48 ` John McCutchan
2006-02-22 17:50   ` Robin Holt
2006-02-22 20:05     ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22 21:50       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-02-23 12:56       ` Robin Holt
2006-02-23 13:42         ` David Chinner
2006-02-22 22:52     ` John McCutchan
2006-02-22 23:12       ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22 23:41         ` John McCutchan
2006-02-24  0:14           ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-24  0:14           ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-24  5:47             ` John McCutchan
2006-02-24  6:00               ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-24  7:07                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-24  7:16                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-24  7:19                     ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-26 16:58                       ` John McCutchan
2006-02-24 18:56                   ` Robin Holt
2006-02-25  2:44                     ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-25 15:53                     ` [patch] inotify: lock avoidance with parent watch status in dentry Nick Piggin
2006-02-28  0:48                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-26 16:55                   ` John McCutchan [this message]
2006-02-27 10:11                     ` udevd is killing file write performance Nick Piggin
2006-02-27 20:17                       ` John McCutchan
2006-02-23 20:38         ` Benjamin LaHaise

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