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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v7 1/7] Restartable sequences system call
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 20:06:21 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1224101037.7764.1470859581723.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrW-aNG5AOiRi01jnZrLm5h8u3BqT1v+2_LGWf7JohEm2g@mail.gmail.com>

----- On Aug 10, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Andy Lutomirski luto@amacapital.net wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>> ----- On Aug 10, 2016, at 4:10 AM, Andy Lutomirski luto@amacapital.net wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers
>>> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> Actually, we want copy_from_user() there. This executes upon
>>>> resume to user-space, so we can take a page fault is needed, so
>>>> no "inatomic" needed. I therefore suggest:
>>>
>>> Running the code below via exit_to_usermode_loop...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> static bool rseq_get_rseq_cs(struct task_struct *t,
>>>>                 void __user **start_ip,
>>>>                 void __user **post_commit_ip,
>>>>                 void __user **abort_ip)
>>>> {
>>>>         unsigned long ptr;
>>>>         struct rseq_cs __user *urseq_cs;
>>>>         struct rseq_cs rseq_cs;
>>>>
>>>>         if (__get_user(ptr, &t->rseq->rseq_cs))
>>>>                 return false;
>>>>         if (!ptr)
>>>>                 return true;
>>>> #ifdef CONFIG_COMPAT
>>>>         if (in_compat_syscall()) {
>>>>                 urseq_cs = compat_ptr((compat_uptr_t)ptr);
>>>>                 if (copy_from_user(&rseq_cs, urseq_cs, sizeof(*rseq_cs)))
>>>>                         return false;
>>>>                 *start_ip = compat_ptr((compat_uptr_t)rseq_cs.start_ip);
>>>>                 *post_commit_ip = compat_ptr((compat_uptr_t)rseq_cs.post_commit_ip);
>>>>                 *abort_ip = compat_ptr((compat_uptr_t)rseq_cs.abort_ip);
>>>>                 return true;
>>>>         }
>>>> #endif
>>>
>>> ...means that in_compat_syscall() is nonsense.  (It *works* there, but
>>> I can't imagine that it does anything that is actually sensible for
>>> this use.)
>>
>> Agreed that we are not per-se in a system call here. It works for
>> in_ia32_syscall(), but it may not work for in_x32_syscall().
>>
>> Then should we test for this ?
>>
>> if (!is_64bit_mm(current->mm))
>>
>> This is currently x86-specific. Is this how we are expected to test
>> the user-space pointer size in the current mm in arch-agnostic code ?
>> If so, we should implement is_64bit_mm() on all other architectures.
> 
> There is no universal concept of the user-space pointer size on x86
> because x86 code can change it via long jumps.
> 
> What are you actually trying to do?  I would guess that
> user_64bit_mode(regs) is the right thing here, because the rseq data
> structure is describing the currently executing code.

Yes, that's correct, we care about the pointer size of currently executing
code. On x86 user_64bit_mode(regs) would appear to be the right thing to do.

> 
>>
>>>
>>> Can't you just define the ABI so that no compat junk is needed?
>>> (Also, CRIU will thank you for doing that.)
>>
>> We are dealing with user-space pointers here, so AFAIU we need to
>> be aware of their size, which involves compat code. Am I missing
>> something ?
> 
> u64 is a perfectly valid, if odd, userspace pointer on all
> architecures that I know of, and it's certainly a valid userspace
> pointer on x86 32-bit userspace (the high bits will just all be zero).
> Can you just use u64?

My concern is about a 32-bit user-space putting garbage rather than zeroes
(on purpose) to fool the kernel on those upper 32 bits. Doing

  compat_ptr((compat_uptr_t)rseq_cs.start_ip)

effectively ends up clearing the upper 32 bits.

But since we only use those pointer values for comparisons, perhaps we
just don't care if a 32-bit userspace app try to shoot itself in
the foot by passing garbage upper 32 bits ?

> 
> If this would be a performance problem on ARM, then maybe that's a
> reason to use compat helpers.

We already use 64-bit values for the pointers, even on 32-bit. Normally
userspace just puts zeroes in the top bits. It's mostly a question of
clearing the top 32 bits or not when loading them in the kernel. If we
don't need to, then I can remove the compat code entirely, and we don't
care about user_64bit_mode() anymore, as you initially recommended.
Does it make sense ?

> 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> +SYSCALL_DEFINE2(rseq, struct rseq __user *, rseq, int, flags)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> +    if (unlikely(flags))
>>>>>> +            return -EINVAL;
>>>>>
>>>>> (add whitespace)
>>>>
>>>> fixed.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> +    if (!rseq) {
>>>>>> +            if (!current->rseq)
>>>>>> +                    return -ENOENT;
>>>>>> +            return 0;
>>>>>> +    }
>>>
>>> This looks entirely wrong.  Setting rseq to NULL fails if it's already
>>> NULL but silently does nothing if rseq is already set?  Surely it
>>> should always succeed and it should actually do something if rseq is
>>> set.
>>
>> From the proposed rseq(2) manpage:
>>
>> "A NULL rseq value can be used to check whether rseq is registered
>> for the current thread."
>>
>> The implementation does just that: it returns -1, errno=ENOENT if no
>> rseq is currently registered, or 0 if rseq is currently registered.
> 
> I think that's problematic.  Why can't you unregister an existing
> rseq?  If you can't, how is a thread supposed to clean up after
> itself?
> 

Unregistering an existing thread rseq would require that we keep reference
counting, in case multiple libs and/or the app are using rseq. I am
trying to keep things as simple as needed.

If I understand your concern, the problematic scenario would be at
thread exit (this is my current approximate understanding of glibc
handling of library TLS variable reclaim at thread exit):

thread exits in userspace:
- glibc frees its rseq TLS memory area (in case the TLS is in a library),
- thread preempted before really exiting,
- kernel reads/writes to freed TLS memory.
  - corruption may occur (e.g. memory re-allocated by another thread already)

Am I getting it right ?

Thanks,

Mathieu

> --Andy

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-10 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-21 21:14 [RFC PATCH v7 0/7] Restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 1/7] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-25 23:02   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-26  3:02     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-03 12:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-03 16:37         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-03 18:31           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-04  5:01             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-04  4:27           ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-04  5:03             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-09 16:13               ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-10  8:01                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 17:40                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 17:33                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-11  4:54                   ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-10  8:13               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-03 18:29       ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-10 16:47         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 16:59           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-07-27 15:03   ` Boqun Feng
2016-07-27 15:05     ` [RFC 1/4] rseq/param_test: Convert test_data_entry::count to intptr_t Boqun Feng
2016-07-27 15:05       ` [RFC 2/4] Restartable sequences: powerpc architecture support Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  3:13         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-27 15:05       ` [RFC 3/4] Restartable sequences: Wire up powerpc system call Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  3:13         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-27 15:05       ` [RFC 4/4] Restartable sequences: Add self-tests for PPC Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  2:59         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-28  4:43           ` Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  7:37             ` [RFC v2] " Boqun Feng
2016-07-28 14:04               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-28 13:42             ` [RFC 4/4] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-28  3:07       ` [RFC 1/4] rseq/param_test: Convert test_data_entry::count to intptr_t Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-28  3:10     ` [RFC PATCH v7 1/7] Restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-03 13:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-03 14:53     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-08-03 15:45     ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-07 15:36       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-07 23:35         ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-09 13:22           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-09 20:06     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-09 21:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-09 22:41         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10  7:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 13:26             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 13:33               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 14:04                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10  8:10       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 19:04         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 19:16           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 20:06             ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2016-08-10 20:09               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 21:01                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-11  7:23                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10  8:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 13:57         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 14:28           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 14:44             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 13:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 2/7] tracing: instrument restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 3/7] Restartable sequences: ARM 32 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 4/7] Restartable sequences: wire up ARM 32 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 5/7] Restartable sequences: x86 32/64 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 6/7] Restartable sequences: wire up x86 32/64 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 7/7] Restartable sequences: self-tests Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <CO1PR15MB09822FC140F84DCEEF2004CDDD0B0@CO1PR15MB0982.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
2016-07-24  3:09     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-24 18:01       ` Dave Watson
2016-07-25 16:43         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-11 23:26         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12  1:28           ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-12  3:10             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12  3:13               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12  5:30               ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-12 16:35                 ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-12 18:11                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-13  1:28                     ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-14 15:02                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-15  0:56                         ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-15 18:06                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12 19:36           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12 20:05             ` Dave Watson
2016-08-14 17:09               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-25 18:12     ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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