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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Andrew Hunter <ahh@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Chris Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>, rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v7 7/7] Restartable sequences: self-tests
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 03:10:38 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <365498072.8664.1470971438957.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160812012854.GC1740@tardis.cn.ibm.com>

----- On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Boqun Feng boqun.feng@gmail.com wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 11:26:30PM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> ----- On Jul 24, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Dave Watson davejwatson@fb.com wrote:
>> 
>> >>> +static inline __attribute__((always_inline))
>> >>> +bool rseq_finish(struct rseq_lock *rlock,
>> >>> + intptr_t *p, intptr_t to_write,
>> >>> + struct rseq_state start_value)
>> > 
>> >>> This ABI looks like it will work fine for our use case. I don't think it
>> >>> has been mentioned yet, but we may still need multiple asm blocks
>> >>> for differing numbers of writes. For example, an array-based freelist push:
>> > 
>> >>> void push(void *obj) {
>> >>> if (index < maxlen) {
>> >>> freelist[index++] = obj;
>> >>> }
>> >>> }
>> > 
>> >>> would be more efficiently implemented with a two-write rseq_finish:
>> > 
>> >>> rseq_finish2(&freelist[index], obj, // first write
>> >>> &index, index + 1, // second write
>> >>> ...);
>> > 
>> >> Would pairing one rseq_start with two rseq_finish do the trick
>> >> there ?
>> > 
>> > Yes, two rseq_finish works, as long as the extra rseq management overhead
>> > is not substantial.
>> 
>> I've added a commit implementing rseq_finish2() in my rseq volatile
>> dev branch. You can fetch it at:
>> 
>> https://github.com/compudj/linux-percpu-dev/tree/rseq-fallback
>> 
>> I also have a separate test and benchmark tree in addition to the
>> kernel selftests here:
>> 
>> https://github.com/compudj/rseq-test
>> 
>> I named the first write a "speculative" write, and the second write
>> the "final" write.
>> 
> 
> Maybe I miss something subtle, but if the first write is only a
> "speculative" write, why can't we put it in the rseq critical section
> rather than asm block? Like this:
> 
>	do_rseq(..., result, targetptr, newval
>		{
>			newval = index;
>			targetptr = &index;
>			if (newval < maxlen)
>				freelist[newval++] = obj;
>			else
>				result = false;
>		}
> 
> No extra rseq_finish() is needed here, but maybe a little more
> "speculative" writes?

This won't work unfortunately. The speculative stores need to be
between the rseq_event_counter comparison instruction in the rseq_finish
asm sequence and the final store. The ip fixup is really needed for
correctness of speculative stores. The sequence number scheme only works
for loads.

Putting it in the C code between rseq_start and rseq_finish would lead
to races such as:

thread A                                thread B
rseq_start
<preempted>
                                        <sched in>
                                        rseq_start
                                        freelist[offset + 1] = obj
                                        rseq_finish
                                           offset++
                                        <preempted>
<sched in>
freelist[newval + 1] = obj  <--- corrupts the list content.

<snip>

> Besides, do we allow userspace programs do read-only access to the
> memory objects modified by do_rseq(). If so, we have a problem when
> there are two writes in a do_rseq()(either in the rseq critical section
> or in the asm block), because in current implemetation, these two writes
> are unordered, which makes the readers outside a do_rseq() could observe
> the ordering of writes differently.
> 
> For rseq_finish2(), a simple solution would be making the "final" write
> a RELEASE.

Indeed, we would need a release semantic for the final store here if this
is the common use. Or we could duplicate the "flavors" of rseq_finish2 and
add a rseq_finish2_release. We should find a way to eliminate code duplication
there. I suspect we'll end up doing macros.

Thanks,

Mathieu

> 
> Regards,
> Boqun
> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mathieu
>> 
>> --
>> Mathieu Desnoyers
>> EfficiOS Inc.
> > http://www.efficios.com

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-12  3:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-21 21:14 [RFC PATCH v7 0/7] Restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 1/7] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-25 23:02   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-26  3:02     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-03 12:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-03 16:37         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-03 18:31           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-04  5:01             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-04  4:27           ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-04  5:03             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-09 16:13               ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-10  8:01                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 17:40                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 17:33                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-11  4:54                   ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-10  8:13               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-03 18:29       ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-10 16:47         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 16:59           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-07-27 15:03   ` Boqun Feng
2016-07-27 15:05     ` [RFC 1/4] rseq/param_test: Convert test_data_entry::count to intptr_t Boqun Feng
2016-07-27 15:05       ` [RFC 2/4] Restartable sequences: powerpc architecture support Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  3:13         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-27 15:05       ` [RFC 3/4] Restartable sequences: Wire up powerpc system call Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  3:13         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-27 15:05       ` [RFC 4/4] Restartable sequences: Add self-tests for PPC Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  2:59         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-28  4:43           ` Boqun Feng
2016-07-28  7:37             ` [RFC v2] " Boqun Feng
2016-07-28 14:04               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-28 13:42             ` [RFC 4/4] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-28  3:07       ` [RFC 1/4] rseq/param_test: Convert test_data_entry::count to intptr_t Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-28  3:10     ` [RFC PATCH v7 1/7] Restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-03 13:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-03 14:53     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-08-03 15:45     ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-07 15:36       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-07 23:35         ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-09 13:22           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-09 20:06     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-09 21:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-09 22:41         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10  7:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 13:26             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 13:33               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 14:04                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10  8:10       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 19:04         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 19:16           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 20:06             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 20:09               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10 21:01                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-11  7:23                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-10  8:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 13:57         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 14:28           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 14:44             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-10 13:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 2/7] tracing: instrument restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 3/7] Restartable sequences: ARM 32 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 4/7] Restartable sequences: wire up ARM 32 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 5/7] Restartable sequences: x86 32/64 architecture support Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 6/7] Restartable sequences: wire up x86 32/64 system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-21 21:14 ` [RFC PATCH v7 7/7] Restartable sequences: self-tests Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <CO1PR15MB09822FC140F84DCEEF2004CDDD0B0@CO1PR15MB0982.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
2016-07-24  3:09     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-24 18:01       ` Dave Watson
2016-07-25 16:43         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-11 23:26         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12  1:28           ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-12  3:10             ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2016-08-12  3:13               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12  5:30               ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-12 16:35                 ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-12 18:11                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-13  1:28                     ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-14 15:02                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-15  0:56                         ` Boqun Feng
2016-08-15 18:06                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12 19:36           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-08-12 20:05             ` Dave Watson
2016-08-14 17:09               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-07-25 18:12     ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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