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From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tiwai@suse.de, broonie@kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	jank@cadence.com, srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org,
	slawomir.blauciak@intel.com,
	Sanyog Kale <sanyog.r.kale@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 15/40] soundwire: cadence_master: handle multiple status reports per Slave
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 11:41:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1326bf1d-8289-2838-e2bd-48dba78b4a6c@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190802160115.GS12733@vkoul-mobl.Dlink>



On 8/2/19 11:01 AM, Vinod Koul wrote:
> On 02-08-19, 10:29, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>> On 8/2/19 7:20 AM, Vinod Koul wrote:
>>> On 25-07-19, 18:40, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
> 
>>>> +				status[i] = SDW_SLAVE_UNATTACHED;
>>>> +				break;
>>>> +			case 1:
>>>> +				status[i] = SDW_SLAVE_ATTACHED;
>>>> +				break;
>>>> +			case 2:
>>>> +				status[i] = SDW_SLAVE_ALERT;
>>>> +				break;
>>>> +			default:
>>>> +				status[i] = SDW_SLAVE_RESERVED;
>>>> +				break;
>>>> +			}
>>>
>>> we have same logic in the code block preceding this, maybe good idea to
>>> write a helper and use for both
>>
>> Yes, I am thinking about this. There are multiple cases where we want to
>> re-check the status and clear some bits, so helpers would be good.
>>
>>>
>>> Also IIRC we can have multiple status set right?
>>
>> Yes, the status bits are sticky and mirror all values reported in PING
>> frames. I am still working on how to clear those bits, there are cases where
>> we clear bits and end-up never hearing from that device ever again. classic
>> edge/level issue I suppose.
> 
> Then the case logic above doesn't work, it should be like the code block
> preceding this..

what I was referring to already is a problem even in single status mode.

Let's say for example that a device shows up as Device0, then we try to 
enumerate it and program a non-zero device number. If that fails, we 
currently clear the Attached status for Device0, so will never have an 
interrupt ever again. The device is there, attached as Device0, but 
we've lost the single opportunity to make it usable. The link is in most 
cases going to be extremely reliable, but if we know of state machines 
that lead to a terminal state then we should proactively have a recovery 
mechanism to avoid complicated debug down the road for cases where the 
hardware has transient issues.

For the multiple status case, we will have to look at the details and 
figure out which of the flags get cleared and which ones don't.

One certainty is that we absolutely have to track IO errors in interrupt 
context. They are recoverable in regular context but not quite in 
interrupt context if we clear the status bits unconditionally.

Maybe a tangent here but to be transparent there are really multiple 
topics we are tracking at the moment:

1. error handling in interrupts. I found a leak where if a device goes 
in the weeds while we program its device number and resynchronizes then 
we allocate a new device number instead of reusing the initial one. The 
bit clearing is also to be checked as explained above.

2. module dependencies: there is a race condition leading to a kernel 
oops if the Slave probe is not complete before the .update_status is 
invoked.

3. jack detection. The jack detection routine is called as a result of 
an imp-def Slave interrupt. We never documented the assumption that if 
this jack detection takes time then it needs to be done offline, e.g. in 
a work queue. Or if we still want it to be done in a the interrupt 
thread then we need to re-enable interrupts earlier, otherwise one 
device can stop interrupt handling for a fairly long duration.

4. streaming stop on link errors. We've seen in tests that if you reset 
the link or a Slave device with debugfs while audio is playing then 
streaming continues. This condition could happen if a device loses sync, 
and the spec says the Slave needs to reset its channel enable bits. At 
the command level, we handle this situation and will recover, but there 
is no notification to the ALSA layers to try and recover on the PCM side 
of things (as if it were an underflow condition). We also try to disable 
a stream but get all kinds of errors since it's lost state.

All of those points are corner cases but they are important to solve for 
actual products.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-02 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 183+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-25 23:39 [RFC PATCH 00/40] soundwire: updates for 5.4 Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 01/40] soundwire: add debugfs support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 22:15   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 13:43     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  9:22   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 13:57     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 14:04   ` Greg KH
2019-07-26 15:29     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 02/40] soundwire: cadence_master: add debugfs register dump Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 14:09   ` Greg KH
2019-07-26 15:32     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05  7:55   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 15:20     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 03/40] soundwire: cadence_master: align debugfs to 8 digits Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  9:38   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 13:58     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 11:50   ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 04/40] soundwire: intel: add debugfs register dump Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  9:35   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:00     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 14:11       ` Greg KH
2019-07-26 14:06   ` Greg KH
2019-07-26 14:09     ` Greg KH
2019-07-26 15:34     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 05/40] soundwire: intel: move interrupt enable after interrupt handler registration Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 11:53   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 15:08     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 06/40] soundwire: intel: prevent possible dereference in hw_params Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  9:45   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:02     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 11:55   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 15:16     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 15:57       ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 16:52         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:37           ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 07/40] soundwire: intel: fix channel number reported by hardware Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 11:57   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 15:18     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 08/40] soundwire: intel: remove BIOS work-arounds Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 11:58   ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 09/40] soundwire: cadence_master: fix usage of CONFIG_UPDATE Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 22:23   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 14:05     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  2:11   ` Bard liao
2019-07-26 13:33     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  9:53   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26  9:54     ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-08-02 12:03   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 15:18     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05  8:51   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 10/40] soundwire: cadence_master: remove useless wrapper Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 11/40] soundwire: cadence_master: simplify bus clash interrupt clear Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 12:07   ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 12/40] soundwire: cadence_master: revisit interrupt settings Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 12:10   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 15:23     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 13/40] soundwire: cadence_master: fix register definition for SLAVE_STATE Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 12:12   ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 14/40] soundwire: cadence_master: fix definitions for INTSTAT0/1 Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 12:13   ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 15/40] soundwire: cadence_master: handle multiple status reports per Slave Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 22:31   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 14:09     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 12:20   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 15:29     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 16:01       ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 16:41         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 16/40] soundwire: cadence_master: improve startup sequence with link hw_reset Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  7:22   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 14:11     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 17/40] soundwire: bus: use runtime_pm_get_sync/pm when enabled Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  7:39   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26  7:47     ` Jan Kotas
2019-07-26  8:22       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26  8:33         ` Jan Kotas
2019-07-26  8:42           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 18:08   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 18:25     ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 19:11       ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-07-26 19:08     ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-07-29 22:07       ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-30 11:21         ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-07-30 12:57           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-30 15:58             ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-07-30 15:59               ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-08-02 16:58   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:20     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 18/40] soundwire: bus: split handling of Device0 events Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 16:59   ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 19/40] soundwire: bus: improve dynamic debug comments for enumeration Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:00   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:20     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 20/40] soundwire: prototypes for suspend/resume Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:04   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:15     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:03   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:21     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 21/40] soundwire: export helpers to find row and column values Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 14:43   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 15:26     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:04       ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-05  9:39   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 15:27     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 22/40] soundwire: include mod_devicetable.h to avoid compiling warnings Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 23/40] soundwire: stream: fix disable sequence Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:14   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:17     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 14:51   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 15:05     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05  9:56   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 15:33     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05 16:32       ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 19:12         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 24/40] soundwire: cadence_master: use BIOS defaults for frame shape Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:20   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:22     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:10   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:24     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05 10:01   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 25/40] soundwire: intel: use BIOS information to set clock dividers Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:17   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:29     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05 10:28   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 15:40     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 26/40] soundwire: cadence_master: fix divider setting in clock register Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  5:19   ` [alsa-devel] " Bard liao
2019-07-26  5:56     ` rander.wang
2019-07-26 14:24     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:19   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:30     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05 10:40   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 15:41     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 27/40] soundwire: Add Intel resource management algorithm Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 11:07   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:41     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 15:43   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 17:55     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05 16:54   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 19:08     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 28/40] soundwire: intel: handle disabled links Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05 16:57   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 19:18     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 29/40] soundwire: intel_init: add kernel module parameter to filter out links Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:30   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:43     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 30/40] soundwire: cadence_master: add kernel parameter to override interrupt mask Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 31/40] soundwire: intel: move shutdown() callback and don't export symbol Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:38   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:46     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:28       ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:42         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-14 19:31         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-23  7:34           ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-23 15:57             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 32/40] soundwire: intel: add helper for initialization Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:42   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:55     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 33/40] soundwire: intel: Add basic power management support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:50   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:57     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 34/40] soundwire: intel: ignore disabled links for suspend/resume Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:30   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:44     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 35/40] soundwire: intel: export helper to exit reset Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 15:52   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 17:22     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:31   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:44     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 36/40] soundwire: intel: disable interrupts on suspend Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 15:55   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 17:26     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 37/40] soundwire: cadence_master: add hw_reset capability in debugfs Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 14:07   ` Greg KH
2019-07-26 15:01     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 15:57   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 17:31     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 38/40] soundwire: cadence_master: make clock stop exit configurable on init Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 16:02   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 17:35     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 39/40] soundwire: intel: add pm_runtime support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 40/40] soundwire: intel: add delay on restart for enumeration Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 00/40] soundwire: updates for 5.4 Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 15:23   ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart

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