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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] cgroup: about multiple hierarchies
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:33:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1330083196.11248.24.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120223213847.GK19691@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 16:38 -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > Again, it does not mean I am advocating flat hiearchy. I am just wondering
> > > in case of fully nested hierarchies (task at same level as groups), how
> > > does one explain it to a layman user who understands things in terms of
> > > % of resources. 
> > 
> > If your complete control is % based then I would assume its a % of a %.
> > Simple enough.
> 
> But % of % will vary dynamically and not be static. So if root has got
> 100% of resources and we want 25% of that for a group, then hierarchy
> might look as follows.
> 
>                                 root
>                                 / | \
>                                T1 T2 g1
> 
> T1, T2 are tasks and g1 is the group needing 25% of root's resources. Now
> number of tasks running in parallel to g1 will determine its effective %
> and tasks come and go. So the only way to do this would be that move T1
> and T2 in a child group under root and make sure new tasks don't show up
> in root. 

Which is exactly that the scheduler stuff does.. so tough luck for the
sysad who can't grasp it.

> Otherwise creating a group under root does not ensure that you get minimum
> % of resource. It just makes sure that you can't get more than 25% of
> % resources when things are tight. 

You never said anything about minimum resource guarantees in the initial
problem statement.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-24 11:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-21 21:19 [RFD] cgroup: about multiple hierarchies Tejun Heo
2012-02-21 21:21 ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-22 13:34   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-23  7:45     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2012-02-23 17:29       ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-23 18:47         ` Serge Hallyn
2012-02-26  4:59   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-02-22 13:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-22 13:37   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-22 18:01   ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-23  7:39   ` Li Zefan
2012-02-22 15:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-22 18:22   ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-27 17:46     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-22 16:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-22 16:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-22 18:43     ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-23  9:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-23 14:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-01 17:19         ` Michal Schmidt
2012-03-01 18:03           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-02 11:08             ` Michal Schmidt
2012-03-02 11:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-02 11:28                 ` Michal Schmidt
2012-03-02 11:34                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-01 20:26           ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-01 21:02             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-01 22:04               ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-01 22:38                 ` C Anthony Risinger
2012-03-02 10:51                 ` Michal Schmidt
2012-03-02 11:52                   ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-05 12:43                 ` Lennart Poettering
2012-03-05 15:47                   ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-05 19:58                     ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-02  2:43             ` Kay Sievers
2012-03-02 10:15               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-02 11:16             ` Michal Schmidt
2012-03-02 11:24               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-23 21:38       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-23 22:34         ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-28 21:16           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-28 21:21             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-28 21:35               ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-28 21:43                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-28 21:54                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-28 22:00                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-28 22:31                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-28 21:53                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-28 22:09                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-24 11:33         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2012-02-22 18:33   ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-23 19:41     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-23 22:38       ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-23  7:59   ` Li Zefan
2012-02-23 20:32     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-23  8:22 ` Li Zefan
2012-02-23 17:33   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <m162em2efy.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
2012-03-03 14:26   ` Serge Hallyn
2012-03-05 11:37 ` Lennart Poettering
2012-03-12 22:10 ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-12 22:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-12 22:28     ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-12 22:31       ` Lennart Poettering
2012-03-12 23:00         ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-12 23:02           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-12 23:09             ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-12 23:43             ` Lennart Poettering
2012-03-12 22:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-12 22:39         ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-12 22:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-12 23:04             ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-13 14:10               ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-13 16:11                 ` C Anthony Risinger
2012-03-13 16:30                   ` C Anthony Risinger
2012-03-13 17:25                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-13 17:31                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-13 10:11             ` Glauber Costa
2012-03-13 14:03       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-13 15:59         ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-16 23:14           ` James Bottomley
2012-03-12 22:37   ` Serge Hallyn
2012-03-12 22:55     ` Tejun Heo
2012-03-13 13:49   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-13 16:02     ` Tejun Heo

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