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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	gleb@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jan.kiszka@siemens.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/2] kvm: KVM_EOIFD, an eventfd for EOIs
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:23:24 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1344893004.4683.136.camel@ul30vt.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120812093336.GC1421@redhat.com>

On Sun, 2012-08-12 at 12:33 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 01:26:15PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 13:40 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > > On 08/06/2012 01:38 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Regarding the implementation, instead of a linked list, would an array
> > > > of counters parallel to the bitmap make it simpler?
> > > 
> > > Or even, replace the bitmap with an array of counters.
> > 
> > I'm not sure a counter array is what we're really after.  That gives us
> > reference counting for the irq source IDs, but not the key->gsi lookup.
> > It also highlights another issue, that we have a limited set of source
> > IDs.  Looks like we have BITS_PER_LONG IDs, with two already used, one
> > for the shared userspace ID and another for the PIT.  How happy are we
> > going to be with a limit of 62 level interrupts in use at one time?
> > 
> > It's arguably a reasonable number since the most virtualization friendly
> > devices (sr-iov VFs) don't even support this kind of interrupt.  It's
> > also very wasteful allocating an entire source ID for a single GSI
> > within that source ID.  PCI supports interrupts A, B, C, and D, which,
> > in the most optimal config, each go to different GSIs.  So we could
> > theoretically be more efficient in our use and allocation of irq source
> > IDs if we tracked use by the source ID, gsi pair.
> > 
> > That probably makes it less practical to replace anything at the top
> > level with a counter array.  The key that we pass back is currently the
> > actual source ID, but we don't specify what it is, so we could split it
> > and have it encode a 16bit source ID plus 16 bit GSI.  It could also be
> > an idr entry.
> > 
> > Michael, would the interface be more acceptable to you if we added
> > separate ioctls to allocate and free some representation of an irq
> > source ID, gsi pair?  For instance, an ioctl might return an idr entry
> > for an irq source ID/gsi object which would then be passed as a
> > parameter in struct kvm_irqfd and struct kvm_eoifd so that the object
> > representing the source id/gsi isn't magically freed on it's own.  This
> > would also allow us to deassign/close one end and reconfigure it later.
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Alex
> 
> It's acceptable to me either way. I was only pointing out that as
> designed, the interface looks simple at first but then you find out some
> subtle limitations which are implementation driven. This gives
> an overall feeling the abstraction is too low level.
> 
> If we compare to the existing irqfd, isn't the difference
> simply that irqfd deasserts immediately ATM, while we
> want to delay this until later?
> 
> If yes, then along the lines that you proposed, and combining with my
> idea of tracking deasserts, how do you like the following:
> 
> /* Keep line asserted until guest has handled the interrupt. */
> #define KVM_IRQFD_FLAG_DEASSERT_ON_ACK (1 << 1)
> /* Notify after line is deasserted. */
> #define KVM_IRQFD_FLAG_DEASSERT_EVENTFD (2 << 1)
> 
> 	struct kvm_irqfd {
> 		__u32 fd;
> 		__u32 gsi;
> 		__u32 flags;
> 		/* eventfd to notify when line is deasserted */
> 		__u32 deassert_eventfd;
> 		__u8  pad[16];
> 	};
> 
> now the only limitation is that KVM_IRQFD_FLAG_DEASSERT_ON_ACK is only
> effective for level interrupts.
> 
> Notes about lifetime of objects:
> 	- closing deassert_eventfd does nothing (we can keep
> 	  reference to it from irqfd so no need for
>           complex polling/flushing scheme)
> 	- closing irqfd or deasserting dis-associates
> 	  deassert_eventfd automatically
> 	- source id is internal to irqfd and goes away with it
> 
> it looks harder to misuse and fits what we want to do nicely,
> and needs less code to implement.

This is effectively what I meant when I suggested we either need to a)
pull eoifd into irqfd or b) implement them as modular components.  I
chose to implement b) because I think that non-irqfd related ack
notification to userspace will be useful and a) does not provide that.
So this interface enables exactly the use case for device assignment and
no more.  I feel like this is the start of an ioctl that will be quickly
deprecated, but if that's the direction we want to go, I'll write the
code.  Thanks,

Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-13 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-24 20:43 [PATCH v7 0/2] kvm: level irqfd and new eoifd Alex Williamson
2012-07-24 20:43 ` [PATCH v7 1/2] kvm: Extend irqfd to support level interrupts Alex Williamson
2012-07-29 15:01   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-30 16:06     ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-24 20:43 ` [PATCH v7 2/2] kvm: KVM_EOIFD, an eventfd for EOIs Alex Williamson
2012-07-29 14:54   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-30 16:22     ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-31  0:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-31  0:26         ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-31  0:36           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-31  1:12             ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-01 19:06               ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-12  7:49                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 16:48                   ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 16:59                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 18:17                       ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 19:50                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 20:48                           ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 21:50                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 22:22                               ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 22:52                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 10:10                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 10:13                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-02  8:42               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-06 10:17   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06 10:38     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06 10:40       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 19:26         ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-12  8:36           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-13 21:34             ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 22:06               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 22:41                 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 23:00                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14  3:09                     ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-14  8:35                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 21:28                         ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-12  9:33           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 21:23             ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2012-08-13 22:00               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 12:35             ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-14 14:50               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 22:01               ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-14 23:04                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 23:26                   ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-15 13:09                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-12  7:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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