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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	avi@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jan.kiszka@siemens.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/2] kvm: KVM_EOIFD, an eventfd for EOIs
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:13:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120814101353.GA9738@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120814101014.GF11194@redhat.com>

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 01:10:15PM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 01:52:13AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > Using the EOI as a trigger to de-assert and potentially re-assert may be
> > > a hack, but it's about as close as we can come to following the behavior
> > > of hardware.
> > > It's actually quite similar to an apic re-sampling inputs
> > > except we don't have a physical line to read and see that it's still
> > > asserted.  We emulate this by de-asserting it and letting it re-assert
> > > if necessary.  The emulation to the guest isn't perfect, but it's a lot
> > > closer than immediately de-asserting the pin.
> > > I think the discussion
> > > below describes why I do this versus something that might be even closer
> > > to actual hardware.
> > 
> > Sorry I don't understand what "quite similar" means.  If deassert on ack
> > is "closer" somehow show me some software that needs it.
> > 
> This is incorrect question to ask. The correct one is "is there guest
> visible effect" and the answer is yes. If guest reads ioapic irr before
> eoi it will incorrectly read zero. Now when we know what is guest visible
> effect we can think about whether we can live with it. But it looks like
> we can't since this have more serious implications. If interrupt is masked
> in ioapic during irq delivery interrupt will be never delivered after unmask.
> 
Can be probably solved using mask notifiers, although I'd rather delete
them than add new users.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-14 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-24 20:43 [PATCH v7 0/2] kvm: level irqfd and new eoifd Alex Williamson
2012-07-24 20:43 ` [PATCH v7 1/2] kvm: Extend irqfd to support level interrupts Alex Williamson
2012-07-29 15:01   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-30 16:06     ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-24 20:43 ` [PATCH v7 2/2] kvm: KVM_EOIFD, an eventfd for EOIs Alex Williamson
2012-07-29 14:54   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-30 16:22     ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-31  0:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-31  0:26         ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-31  0:36           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-31  1:12             ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-01 19:06               ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-12  7:49                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 16:48                   ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 16:59                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 18:17                       ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 19:50                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 20:48                           ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 21:50                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 22:22                               ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 22:52                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 10:10                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 10:13                                     ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-08-02  8:42               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-06 10:17   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06 10:38     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06 10:40       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 19:26         ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-12  8:36           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-13 21:34             ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 22:06               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 22:41                 ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 23:00                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14  3:09                     ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-14  8:35                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 21:28                         ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-12  9:33           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 21:23             ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-13 22:00               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 12:35             ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-14 14:50               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 22:01               ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-14 23:04                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 23:26                   ` Alex Williamson
2012-08-15 13:09                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-12  7:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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