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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
	eric.dumazet@gmail.com, darren@dvhart.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	sbw@mit.edu, patches@linaro.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paul.mckenney@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/15] rcu: Avoid spurious RCU CPU stall warnings
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 18:05:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1346969153.1680.60.camel@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120906215838.GM2448@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 14:58 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:

> > All these cases deserve a warning.
> 
> Agreed, and that is the whole purpose of the stall warnings.

Then let me ask the question again. According to the change log:

> If a given CPU avoids the idle loop but also avoids starting a new
> RCU grace period for a full minute, RCU can issue spurious RCU CPU
> stall warnings.  This commit fixes this issue by adding a check for
> ongoing grace period to avoid these spurious stall warnings.


I'm still confused by what is "this issue"? And why is it being fixed.
It sounds to me that the "issue" was a CPU avoiding starting a new RCU
grace period for a full minute. Which to me sounds like a bug in which
we *want* a warning. Why is this patch needed?

-- Steve



  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-06 22:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-30 18:56 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/15] Miscellaneous fixes Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:56 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/15] rcu: Add PROVE_RCU_DELAY to provoke difficult races Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/15] rcu: Pull TINY_RCU dyntick-idle tracing into non-idle region Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 16:53     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/15] rcu: Properly initialize ->boost_tasks on CPU offline Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 17:56     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 14:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 20:58       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/15] rcu: Permit RCU_NONIDLE() to be used from interrupt context Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 18:00     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-04 22:33       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-04 22:48         ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-04 22:51         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-09-04 23:08           ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-04 23:23             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-09-04 23:33               ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-04 23:43                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 18:54                   ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 19:54                     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-09-07  6:09                       ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-07 14:24                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-07 14:47                           ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-07 15:16                             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-09-12  1:07                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-12 14:13                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-09-12 15:03                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-12 15:18                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-09-12 16:57                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-04 23:46                 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-09-05  0:42                   ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-05  6:23                   ` [PATCH] trace: Don't declare trace_*_rcuidle functions in modules Josh Triplett
2012-09-05 14:26                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-09-05 16:36                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 19:49                     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-09-14  6:07                     ` [tip:core/rcu] trace: Don' t " tip-bot for Josh Triplett
2012-09-04 23:14           ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/15] rcu: Permit RCU_NONIDLE() to be used from interrupt context Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/15] rcu: Improve boost selection when moving tasks to root rcu_node Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 18:09     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/15] rcu: Make offline-CPU checking allow for indefinite delays Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 18:12     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/15] rcu: Fix obsolete rcu_initiate_boost() header comment Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 18:13     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/15] rcu: Apply for_each_rcu_flavor() to increment_cpu_stall_ticks() Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 18:15     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-04 22:44       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/15] rcu: Avoid rcu_print_detail_task_stall_rnp() segfault Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 18:19     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-04 22:46       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-04 22:55         ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/15] rcu: Protect rcu_node accesses during CPU stall warnings Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 18:23     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-04 22:51       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 14:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 21:01       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/15] rcu: Avoid spurious RCU " Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 18:24     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 14:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 15:07       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-09-06 15:19         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 21:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 21:41             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-09-06 21:58               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 22:05                 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2012-09-06 22:22                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-07  7:00                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-07 14:42                       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/15] rcu: Remove redundant memory barrier from __call_rcu() Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 18:30     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-31 18:40       ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/15] rcu: Move TINY_PREEMPT_RCU away from raw_local_irq_save() Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 18:34     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-04 23:03       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 14/15] time: RCU permitted to stop idle entry via softirq Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 18:51     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 15:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 21:35       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 21:57         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-09-06 22:11           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:56   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 15/15] kmemleak: Replace list_for_each_continue_rcu with new interface Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 18:55     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-04 23:41       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 16:49   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/15] rcu: Add PROVE_RCU_DELAY to provoke difficult races Josh Triplett
2012-09-04 22:36     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 14:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 20:51     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-07  6:54       ` Peter Zijlstra

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