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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PING^7 (was Re: [PATCH v2 00/14] Corrections and customization of the SG_IO command whitelist (CVE-2012-4542))
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 16:07:15 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1369224435.1811.22.camel@dabdike> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <519C9CBC.3050003@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 12:23 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 22/05/2013 12:02, Tejun Heo ha scritto:
> > On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:53:30AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >> Il 22/05/2013 11:32, Tejun Heo ha scritto:
> >>> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 08:35:54AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >>>> I'm not sure what is more ridiculous, whether the seven pings or the
> >>>> lack of review...
> >>>
> >>> So, ummm, I don't know what Jens is thinking but at this point I'm
> >>> basically waiting for someone else to pick it up as review to return
> >>> ratio is too low to continue.  It doesn't seem like I can get the
> >>> series into a shape I can ack with reasonable amount of effort.
> >>
> >> Then please say so.  I didn't find any comment in your review that I missed.
> > 
> > Well, I've tried that multiple times and didn't get the results that I
> > was expecting each time, so doing it all over again felt pointless.
> > Even now, you just repeat what you've been saying and I'd have to
> > fight through each and every point.
> 
> Yes, because I have no idea what _your_ point is.

OK, let me try.  I did draw straws with Jens at LSF to see who would
look at this and he lost, but the complexity of the patch set probably
makes it hard for him to find the time.

The first problem, which Tejun already pointed out is that you've
combined a "bug fix" with a large feature set in such a way that they
can't be separated, so saying the first four patches fix a bug isn't
helpful.

The second problem is that it's not at all clear what the bug actually
is.  You have to wade through tons of red hat bugzillas before you come
up with the fact that there's one command which we allow users to send
which is ambiguous: GPCMD_READ_SUBCHANNEL which has the same opcode as
UNMAP on a disk.  Once you finally work this out, you wonder what all
the fuss is about because UNMAP is advisory ... even if an unprivileged
user can now send the command, it can't be used to damage any data or
even get access to any data, so there doesn't seem to be an actual bug
to fix at all.

The various committees do try hard to ensure there's no opcode
overlap ... although they don't always succeed as you see with the UNMAP
above, so I'm not at all sure we need the huge complexity of per scsi
device type command filter lists, which is what the rest of the feature
additions is about.

The third problem is that in order to verify that all the code motion
doesn't actually introduce a bug, you have to wade through about seven
patches ... the patch split really isn't at all conducive to reviewing
this critical piece.

Finally, the patch for the feature I think you actually want, which is
13/14, could have been implemented fairly simply as a single patch and
doesn't have to be part of this series.

James



  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-22 12:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-06 15:15 [PATCH v2 00/14] Corrections and customization of the SG_IO command whitelist (CVE-2012-4542) Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] sg_io: pass request_queue to blk_verify_command Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] sg_io: reorganize list of allowed commands Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] sg_io: use different default filters for each device class Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] sg_io: resolve conflicts between commands assigned to multiple classes (CVE-2012-4542) Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] sg_io: whitelist a few more commands for rare & obsolete device types Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] sg_io: whitelist another command for multimedia devices Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] sg_io: whitelist a few more commands for media changers Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] sg_io: whitelist a few more commands for tapes Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] sg_io: whitelist a few more commands for disks Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] sg_io: whitelist a few obsolete commands Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] sg_io: mark blk_set_cmd_filter_defaults as __init Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:15 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] sg_io: remove remnants of sysfs SG_IO filters Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] sg_io: introduce unpriv_sgio queue flag Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-06 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] sg_io: use unpriv_sgio to disable whitelisting for scanners Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-13  8:32 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] Corrections and customization of the SG_IO command whitelist (CVE-2012-4542) Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-13 15:35   ` Douglas Gilbert
2013-02-13 15:48     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-20 16:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-22 22:30   ` PING^2 " Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-04 18:18     ` PING^3 " Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-17 12:26       ` PING^4 aka The Jon Corbet Effect " Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-27 13:31         ` PING^5 aka New ways to attract attentions " Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-06 20:43   ` PING^6 " Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22  6:35 ` PING^7 (was Re: [PATCH v2 00/14] Corrections and customization of the SG_IO command whitelist (CVE-2012-4542)) Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22  9:32   ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-22  9:53     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22 10:02       ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-22 10:23         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22 12:07           ` James Bottomley [this message]
2013-05-22 14:07             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22 16:31               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22 13:41           ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-22 14:12             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22 14:30               ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-22 15:00                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22 19:30                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-22 21:18                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22 22:17                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-23  0:54                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-23  7:45                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-23  9:02                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-23  9:47                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-24  1:44                               ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-24  7:13                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-24  8:02                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-24  8:31                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-24  9:07                                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-24  9:45                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-24 22:20                                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-25  4:35                                     ` James Bottomley
2013-05-25  5:27                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-05-25  7:05                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-25  7:11                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-05-25  7:21                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-21 11:57                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-05-25  8:37                                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-25 11:14                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-25 12:48                                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-25 12:56                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22 15:03               ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-05-22 15:53                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22 16:32                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2013-05-22 17:00                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22 18:11                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-05-22 19:37                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22 20:19                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-05-22 20:36                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-25  3:54                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2013-05-28 20:25                       ` Martin K. Petersen
2013-05-29  6:12                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2013-05-22 20:39                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-22 21:12                     ` Paolo Bonzini

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