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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: George Spelvin <linux@sciencehorizons.net>
Cc: tytso@mit.edu, ak@linux.intel.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	David.Laight@aculab.com, djb@cr.yp.to, ebiggers3@gmail.com,
	hannes@stressinduktion.org, Jason@zx2c4.com,
	jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	luto@amacapital.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, tom@herbertland.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, vegard.nossum@gmail.com
Subject: Re: HalfSipHash Acceptable Usage
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 21:29:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1482298164.8944.8.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161221032829.3031.qmail@ns.sciencehorizons.net>

On Tue, 2016-12-20 at 22:28 -0500, George Spelvin wrote:
> > I do not see why SipHash, if faster than MD5 and more secure, would be a
> > problem.
> 
> Because on 32-bit x86, it's slower.
> 
> Cycles per byte on 1024 bytes of data:
> 			Pentium	Core 2	Ivy
> 			4	Duo	Bridge
> SipHash-2-4		38.9	 8.3	 5.8
> HalfSipHash-2-4		12.7	 4.5	 3.2
> MD5			 8.3	 5.7	 4.7

So definitely not faster.

38 cycles per byte is a problem, considering IPV6 is ramping up.

But TCP session establishment on P4 is probably not a big deal.
Nobody would expect a P4 to handle gazillions of TCP flows (using a
32bit kernel)

What about SHA performance (syncookies) on P4 ?

Synfloods are probably the only case we might take care of for 2000-era
cpus.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-21  5:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-19 17:32 Jason A. Donenfeld
     [not found] ` <CAGiyFdduUNSGq24zfsk0ZU=hnOCmewAw8vw6XvDoS-3f+3UPKQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-12-19 21:00   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-20 21:36 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-12-20 23:07   ` George Spelvin
2016-12-20 23:55   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-12-21  3:28     ` George Spelvin
2016-12-21  5:29       ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2016-12-21  6:34         ` George Spelvin
2016-12-21 14:24           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-21 15:55             ` George Spelvin
2016-12-21 16:37               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-21 16:41               ` [kernel-hardening] " Rik van Riel
2016-12-21 17:25               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-21 18:07                 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-22  1:54                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-21 14:42         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-21 15:56           ` Eric Dumazet
2016-12-21 16:33             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-21 16:39             ` [kernel-hardening] " Rik van Riel
2016-12-21 17:08               ` Eric Dumazet
2016-12-21 18:37             ` George Spelvin
2016-12-21 18:40               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2016-12-21 22:27               ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-12-22  0:18                 ` George Spelvin
2016-12-22  1:13                 ` George Spelvin

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