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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.de>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/4] x86/pci: Re-use new dmi_get_bios_year() helper
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 21:34:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1519846461.10722.309.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180228202144.2ae8149f@endymion>

On Wed, 2018-02-28 at 20:21 +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:33:39 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Andy Shevchenko
> > <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > I would assume that no BIOS date is related to prehistoric
> > > firmwares and
> > >  using _CRS would sound weird on them.  
> > 
> > Careful here.
> > 
> > You seem to be assuming that the DMI information is always valid
> > and/or complete which is know to not be the case sometimes.
> 
> True. While the BIOS date is not the worst offender when it comes to
> broken DMI data, you must remember that the date comes as a string,
> and
> older SMBIOS specifications did not even recommend a specific format
> for that string. As a matter of fact, my collection of DMI tables
> includes a few creative samples like "Jul  7 2016" or "09-16-08" which
> the kernel fails to parse.
> 
> So the default behavior at the driver level shouldn't be based on what
> older systems are most likely to enjoy. The default behavior must be
> the safest option, regardless of the age of the system.

Yep.

And here is a very good question which path is more safer: use _CRS, or
not?

Rafael, do you know any consequences of not using _CRS for PCI on older
and newer machines?

-- 
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Intel Finland Oy

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-28 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-22 12:59 [PATCH v1 1/4] dmi: Introduce dmi_get_bios_year() helper Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-22 12:59 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] x86/pci: Re-use new " Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-23  8:25   ` [tip:x86/platform] x86/pci: Simplify code by using the " tip-bot for Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-23 21:39   ` [PATCH v1 2/4] x86/pci: Re-use " Bjorn Helgaas
2018-02-26 16:28   ` Jean Delvare
2018-02-28 10:29     ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-28 10:33       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-02-28 19:21         ` Jean Delvare
2018-02-28 19:34           ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2018-02-22 12:59 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] ACPI / sleep: " Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-23  8:25   ` [tip:x86/platform] ACPI/sleep: Simplify code by using the " tip-bot for Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-26 16:31   ` [PATCH v1 3/4] ACPI / sleep: Re-use " Jean Delvare
2018-02-22 12:59 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] pci: " Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-23  8:26   ` [tip:x86/platform] pci: Simplify code by using the " tip-bot for Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-23 21:40   ` [PATCH v1 4/4] pci: Re-use " Bjorn Helgaas
2018-02-25 13:27     ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-26 18:19       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-02-28 10:12         ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-28 15:17           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-02-26 20:40   ` Jean Delvare
2018-02-23  8:24 ` [tip:x86/platform] dmi: Introduce the dmi_get_bios_year() helper function tip-bot for Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-23 21:35 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] dmi: Introduce dmi_get_bios_year() helper Bjorn Helgaas
2018-02-25 13:23   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-26  9:29     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-02-28 10:14       ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-27  9:14 ` Jean Delvare
2018-02-28 10:33   ` Andy Shevchenko

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