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From: Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>, davem@davemloft.net
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net/skbuff: silence warnings under memory pressure
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 14:06:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1567188415.5576.34.camel@lca.pw> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <229ebc3b-1c7e-474f-36f9-0fa603b889fb@gmail.com>

On Fri, 2019-08-30 at 18:15 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> 
> On 8/30/19 5:25 PM, Qian Cai wrote:
> > On Fri, 2019-08-30 at 17:11 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 8/30/19 4:57 PM, Qian Cai wrote:
> > > > When running heavy memory pressure workloads, the system is throwing
> > > > endless warnings below due to the allocation could fail from
> > > > __build_skb(), and the volume of this call could be huge which may
> > > > generate a lot of serial console output and cosumes all CPUs as
> > > > warn_alloc() could be expensive by calling dump_stack() and then
> > > > show_mem().
> > > > 
> > > > Fix it by silencing the warning in this call site. Also, it seems
> > > > unnecessary to even print a warning at all if the allocation failed in
> > > > __build_skb(), as it may just retransmit the packet and retry.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Same patches are showing up there and there from time to time.
> > > 
> > > Why is this particular spot interesting, against all others not adding
> > > __GFP_NOWARN ?
> > > 
> > > Are we going to have hundred of patches adding __GFP_NOWARN at various
> > > points,
> > > or should we get something generic to not flood the syslog in case of
> > > memory
> > > pressure ?
> > > 
> > 
> > From my testing which uses LTP oom* tests. There are only 3 places need to
> > be
> > patched. The other two are in IOMMU code for both Intel and AMD. The place
> > is
> > particular interesting because it could cause the system with floating
> > serial
> > console output for days without making progress in OOM. I suppose it ends up
> > in
> > a looping condition that warn_alloc() would end up generating more calls
> > into
> > __build_skb() via ksoftirqd.
> > 
> 
> Yes, but what about other tests done by other people ?

Sigh, I don't know what tests do you have in mind. I tried many memory pressure
tests including LTP, stress-ng, and mmtests etc running for years. I don't
recall see other places that could loop like this for days.

> 
> You do not really answer my last question, which was really the point I tried
> to make.
> 
> If there is a risk of flooding the syslog, we should fix this generically
> in mm layer, not adding hundred of __GFP_NOWARN all over the places.
> 
> Maybe just make __GFP_NOWARN the default, I dunno.

I don't really see how it could end up with adding hundred of _GFP_NOWARN in the
kernel code. If there is really a hundred places could loop like this, it may
make more sense looking into a general solution.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-30 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-30 14:57 [PATCH] net/skbuff: silence warnings under memory pressure Qian Cai
2019-08-30 15:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2019-08-30 15:25   ` Qian Cai
2019-08-30 16:15     ` Eric Dumazet
2019-08-30 18:06       ` Qian Cai [this message]
2019-09-03 13:22       ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-03 15:42         ` Qian Cai
2019-09-03 18:53           ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-03 21:42             ` Qian Cai
2019-09-04  6:15               ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-04  6:41                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-04  6:54                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-04  7:19                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-04  7:43                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-04 12:14                         ` Qian Cai
2019-09-04 14:48                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-04 15:07                             ` Qian Cai
2019-09-04 20:42                             ` Qian Cai
2019-09-05  8:32                               ` Eric Dumazet
2019-09-05 14:09                                 ` Qian Cai
2019-09-05 15:06                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2019-09-05 15:14                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2019-09-05 11:32                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-05 16:03                                 ` Qian Cai
2019-09-05 17:14                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-06  2:50                                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-06  4:32                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-06 21:17                                     ` Qian Cai
2019-09-05 17:23                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-06  3:39                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-06 15:32                                     ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-09  1:10                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-06 14:55                                 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-06 19:51                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-14 17:12                                 ` Qian Cai
2019-11-18 15:27                                   ` Petr Mladek
2019-11-19  0:41                                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-19  9:41                                       ` Petr Mladek
2019-11-19 15:58                                         ` Qian Cai
2019-11-20  1:30                                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-20 16:13                                           ` Petr Mladek
2019-11-21  1:05                                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-11-21  9:15                                               ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-04  7:00                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-04  8:25                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-04 11:59                       ` Qian Cai
2019-09-04 12:07                         ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-04 12:28                           ` Qian Cai
2019-09-07 11:00                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-09-04  6:15               ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-02 14:24     ` Vlastimil Babka

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