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From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Laurent\
	 Dufour" <ldufour@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Petr Mladek" <pmladek@suse.com>
Subject: Re: Removal of printk safe buffers delays NMI context printk
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2021 09:48:09 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1636155848.5e41htngh5.astroid@bobo.none> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7cqg0xk.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>

Excerpts from John Ogness's message of November 5, 2021 11:57 pm:
> On 2021-11-05, Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> What was removed from 93d102f094b was irq_work triggering on all
>>> CPUs.
>>
>> No, it was the caller executing the flush for all remote CPUs itself.
>> irq work was not involved (and irq work can't be raised in a remote
>> CPU from NMI context).
> 
> Maybe I am missing something. In 93d102f094b~1 I see:
> 
> watchdog_smp_panic
>   printk_safe_flush
>     __printk_safe_flush
>       printk_safe_flush_buffer
>         printk_safe_flush_line
>           printk_deferred
>             vprintk_deferred
>               vprintk_emit (but no direct printing)
>               defer_console_output
>                 irq_work_queue

Oh I thought you meant irq_work triggering on all CPUs (i.e., including
remote CPUs) was the key.

> AFAICT, using defer_console_output() instead of your new printk_flush()
> should cause the exact behavior as before.

It does.

>> but we do need that printk flush capability back there and for
>> nmi_backtrace.
> 
> Agreed. I had not considered this necessary side-effect when I removed
> the NMI safe buffers.
> 
> I am just wondering if we should fix the regression by going back to
> using irq_work (such as defer_console_output()) or if we want to
> introduce something new that introduces direct printing.

irq_work works for this situation so for a minimal fix I think it's 
fine. When you do the big rework it would be okay to do it directly
if you have such a facility for other reaons.

Thanks,
Nick

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-05 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-04 15:54 Removal of printk safe buffers delays NMI context printk Nicholas Piggin
2021-11-04 16:18 ` John Ogness
2021-11-05  1:26   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-11-05  9:55     ` John Ogness
2021-11-05 11:43       ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-11-05 13:57         ` John Ogness
2021-11-05 16:23           ` Petr Mladek
2021-11-05 16:44             ` John Ogness
2021-11-06  0:26               ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-11-06 20:05                 ` John Ogness
2021-11-05 23:57             ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-11-05 23:48           ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2021-11-05 16:01     ` Petr Mladek

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