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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Removal of printk safe buffers delays NMI context printk
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 17:23:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YYVakNdzjrYuBmhf@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7cqg0xk.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>

On Fri 2021-11-05 15:03:27, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2021-11-05, Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> What was removed from 93d102f094b was irq_work triggering on all
> >> CPUs.
> >
> > No, it was the caller executing the flush for all remote CPUs itself.
> > irq work was not involved (and irq work can't be raised in a remote
> > CPU from NMI context).
> 
> Maybe I am missing something. In 93d102f094b~1 I see:
> 
> watchdog_smp_panic
>   printk_safe_flush
>     __printk_safe_flush
>       printk_safe_flush_buffer
>         printk_safe_flush_line
>           printk_deferred
>             vprintk_deferred
>               vprintk_emit (but no direct printing)
>               defer_console_output
>                 irq_work_queue
> 
> AFAICT, using defer_console_output() instead of your new printk_flush()
> should cause the exact behavior as before.

I agree. printk_safe_flush() used printk_deferred(). It only queued
the irq_work and never called consoles directly.

> > but we do need that printk flush capability back there and for
> > nmi_backtrace.
> 
> Agreed. I had not considered this necessary side-effect when I removed
> the NMI safe buffers.

Honestly, I do not understand why it stopped working or how
it worked before.

printk() calls vprintk(). Current vprintk() does:

asmlinkage int vprintk(const char *fmt, va_list args)
{
[...]
	/*
	 * Use the main logbuf even in NMI. But avoid calling console
	 * drivers that might have their own locks.
	 */
	if (this_cpu_read(printk_context) || in_nmi()) {
		int len;

		len = vprintk_store(0, LOGLEVEL_DEFAULT, NULL, fmt, args);
		defer_console_output();
		return len;
	}

	/* No obstacles. */
	return vprintk_default(fmt, args);
}

By other words, current vprintk():

   + queues irq_work() in NMI context
   + tries to flush consoles immeditely otherwise


> I am just wondering if we should fix the regression by going back to
> using irq_work (such as defer_console_output()) or if we want to
> introduce something new that introduces direct printing.

Yup, defer_console_output() should do the same as printk_safe_flush()
before. We do not longer need to copy the messages because they are
already in the main lockless log buffer.

Well, I am curious about the original code. The commit 93d102f094be9beab28e5
("printk: remove safe buffers") did the following:

diff --git a/arch/powerpc/kernel/watchdog.c b/arch/powerpc/kernel/watchdog.c
index c9a8f4781a10..dc17d8903d4f 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/kernel/watchdog.c
+++ b/arch/powerpc/kernel/watchdog.c
@@ -183,11 +183,6 @@ static void watchdog_smp_panic(int cpu, u64 tb)
 
        wd_smp_unlock(&flags);
 
-       printk_safe_flush();
-       /*
-        * printk_safe_flush() seems to require another print
-        * before anything actually goes out to console.
-        */
        if (sysctl_hardlockup_all_cpu_backtrace)
                trigger_allbutself_cpu_backtrace();

And I am curious because:

   + Why was printk_safe_flush() called before triggering backtraces
     on other CPUs?

   + The comment says that another print is needed before the messages
     goes to the console. It makes sense because printk_safe_flush()
     only set irq_work. But the patch did not remove any printk().
     So, nobody called any printk() even before.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-05 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-04 15:54 Removal of printk safe buffers delays NMI context printk Nicholas Piggin
2021-11-04 16:18 ` John Ogness
2021-11-05  1:26   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-11-05  9:55     ` John Ogness
2021-11-05 11:43       ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-11-05 13:57         ` John Ogness
2021-11-05 16:23           ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2021-11-05 16:44             ` John Ogness
2021-11-06  0:26               ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-11-06 20:05                 ` John Ogness
2021-11-05 23:57             ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-11-05 23:48           ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-11-05 16:01     ` Petr Mladek

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