* [PATCH v2] Documentation: process: Update email client instructions for Thunderbird
@ 2022-07-14 13:11 sndanailov
2022-07-14 23:18 ` Randy Dunlap
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: sndanailov @ 2022-07-14 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: corbet; +Cc: linux-doc, linux-kernel, bagasdotme, Sotir Danailov
From: Sotir Danailov <sndanailov@gmail.com>
The instructions don't match with the current Thunderbird interface.
Clarification on using external extensions.
New information on how to avoid writing HTML emails.
Signed-off-by: Sotir Danailov <sndanailov@gmail.com>
---
Changelog since v1:
- better external extensions explanation
- information on avoiding HTML emails
v1: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-doc/20220713225037.1201-1-sndanailov@gmail.com/
Documentation/process/email-clients.rst | 64 +++++++++++++++++--------
1 file changed, 43 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/process/email-clients.rst b/Documentation/process/email-clients.rst
index 16586f6cc888..229cbde5b62c 100644
--- a/Documentation/process/email-clients.rst
+++ b/Documentation/process/email-clients.rst
@@ -278,35 +278,57 @@ Thunderbird is an Outlook clone that likes to mangle text, but there are ways
to coerce it into behaving.
- Allow use of an external editor:
- The easiest thing to do with Thunderbird and patches is to use an
- "external editor" extension and then just use your favorite ``$EDITOR``
- for reading/merging patches into the body text. To do this, download
- and install the extension, then add a button for it using
- :menuselection:`View-->Toolbars-->Customize...` and finally just click on it
- when in the :menuselection:`Compose` dialog.
-
- Please note that "external editor" requires that your editor must not
- fork, or in other words, the editor must not return before closing.
- You may have to pass additional flags or change the settings of your
- editor. Most notably if you are using gvim then you must pass the -f
- option to gvim by putting ``/usr/bin/gvim -f`` (if the binary is in
- ``/usr/bin``) to the text editor field in :menuselection:`external editor`
- settings. If you are using some other editor then please read its manual
- to find out how to do this.
+
+ The easiest thing to do with Thunderbird and patches is to use extensions
+ which open your favorite external editor.
+
+ Here are some example extensions which are capable of doing this.
+
+ - "External Editor Revived"
+
+ https://github.com/Frederick888/external-editor-revived
+
+ https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-GB/thunderbird/addon/external-editor-revived/
+
+ It requires installing a "native messaging host".
+ Please read the wiki which can be found here:
+ https://github.com/Frederick888/external-editor-revived/wiki
+
+ - "External Editor" (for older versions of Thunderbird)
+
+ https://github.com/exteditor/exteditor
+
+ To do this, download and install the extension, then open the
+ :menuselection:`compose` window, add a button for it using
+ :menuselection:`View-->Toolbars-->Customize...` then
+ just click on the new button when you wish to use the external editor.
+
+ Please note that "External Editor" requires that your editor must not
+ fork, or in other words, the editor must not return before closing.
+ You may have to pass additional flags or change the settings of your
+ editor. Most notably if you are using gvim then you must pass the -f
+ option to gvim by putting ``/usr/bin/gvim --nofork"`` (if the binary is in
+ ``/usr/bin``) to the text editor field in :menuselection:`external editor`
+ settings. If you are using some other editor then please read its manual
+ to find out how to do this.
To beat some sense out of the internal editor, do this:
-- Edit your Thunderbird config settings so that it won't use ``format=flowed``.
- Go to :menuselection:`edit-->preferences-->advanced-->config editor` to bring up
+- Edit your Thunderbird config settings so that it won't use ``format=flowed``!
+ Go to your main window and find the button for your main dropdown menu.
+ :menuselection:`Main Menu-->Preferences-->General-->Config Editor...` to bring up
the thunderbird's registry editor.
-- Set ``mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed`` to ``false``
+ - Set ``mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed`` to ``false``
-- Set ``mailnews.wraplength`` from ``72`` to ``0``
+ - Set ``mailnews.wraplength`` from ``72`` to ``0``
-- :menuselection:`View-->Message Body As-->Plain Text`
+- Don't write HTML messages! Go to the main window
+ :menuselection:`Main Menu-->Account Settings-->youracc@server.something-->Composition & Addressing`!
+ There you can disable the option "Compose messages in HTML format".
-- :menuselection:`View-->Character Encoding-->Unicode (UTF-8)`
+- Open messages only as plain text! Go to the main window
+ :menuselection:`Main Menu-->View-->Message Body As-->Plain Text`!
TkRat (GUI)
***********
--
2.37.0
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* Re: [PATCH v2] Documentation: process: Update email client instructions for Thunderbird
2022-07-14 13:11 [PATCH v2] Documentation: process: Update email client instructions for Thunderbird sndanailov
@ 2022-07-14 23:18 ` Randy Dunlap
2022-07-15 8:11 ` Sotir Danailov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Randy Dunlap @ 2022-07-14 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sndanailov, corbet; +Cc: linux-doc, linux-kernel, bagasdotme
Hi,
On 7/14/22 06:11, sndanailov@gmail.com wrote:
> From: Sotir Danailov <sndanailov@gmail.com>
>
> The instructions don't match with the current Thunderbird interface.
> Clarification on using external extensions.
> New information on how to avoid writing HTML emails.
>
> Signed-off-by: Sotir Danailov <sndanailov@gmail.com>
> ---
> Changelog since v1:
> - better external extensions explanation
> - information on avoiding HTML emails
>
> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-doc/20220713225037.1201-1-sndanailov@gmail.com/
>
> Documentation/process/email-clients.rst | 64 +++++++++++++++++--------
> 1 file changed, 43 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/process/email-clients.rst b/Documentation/process/email-clients.rst
> index 16586f6cc888..229cbde5b62c 100644
> --- a/Documentation/process/email-clients.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/process/email-clients.rst
> @@ -278,35 +278,57 @@ Thunderbird is an Outlook clone that likes to mangle text, but there are ways
> to coerce it into behaving.
>
> - Allow use of an external editor:
> - The easiest thing to do with Thunderbird and patches is to use an
> - "external editor" extension and then just use your favorite ``$EDITOR``
> - for reading/merging patches into the body text. To do this, download
> - and install the extension, then add a button for it using
> - :menuselection:`View-->Toolbars-->Customize...` and finally just click on it
> - when in the :menuselection:`Compose` dialog.
> -
> - Please note that "external editor" requires that your editor must not
> - fork, or in other words, the editor must not return before closing.
> - You may have to pass additional flags or change the settings of your
> - editor. Most notably if you are using gvim then you must pass the -f
> - option to gvim by putting ``/usr/bin/gvim -f`` (if the binary is in
> - ``/usr/bin``) to the text editor field in :menuselection:`external editor`
> - settings. If you are using some other editor then please read its manual
> - to find out how to do this.
> +
> + The easiest thing to do with Thunderbird and patches is to use extensions
> + which open your favorite external editor.
> +
> + Here are some example extensions which are capable of doing this.
> +
> + - "External Editor Revived"
> +
> + https://github.com/Frederick888/external-editor-revived
> +
> + https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-GB/thunderbird/addon/external-editor-revived/
> +
> + It requires installing a "native messaging host".
> + Please read the wiki which can be found here:
> + https://github.com/Frederick888/external-editor-revived/wiki
Does thunderbird v91.11.0 qualify as newer or older?
I tried to use the external-editor-revived yesterday with v1 of the patch..
no success.
v2 of the patch has more useful info (about native-messaging), so I installed
that and still not happy.
After pressing "External Editor" in a tbird reply window, nothing happens.
Wait -- hold everything! Exiting tbird and reloading it
fixed all problems. :)
Thanks for all of the updates. (says the file's original author)
Tested-by: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Acked-by: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
--
~Randy
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* Re: [PATCH v2] Documentation: process: Update email client instructions for Thunderbird
2022-07-14 23:18 ` Randy Dunlap
@ 2022-07-15 8:11 ` Sotir Danailov
2022-07-15 18:55 ` Randy Dunlap
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sotir Danailov @ 2022-07-15 8:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Randy Dunlap, corbet; +Cc: linux-doc, linux-kernel, bagasdotme
Thank you for taking the time!
I didn't expect the original author to participate. :D
I probably should've sent a cc to you and others as well, sorry about that!
Didn't do my research good enough I guess.
On Fri 15 07 2022 01:18, Randy Dunlap wrote:
>
> Does thunderbird v91.11.0 qualify as newer or older?
>
> I tried to use the external-editor-revived yesterday with v1 of the patch..
> no success.
Do you think that the whole section about the
old "External Editor" extension should be removed?
> v2 of the patch has more useful info (about native-messaging), so I installed
> that and still not happy.
> After pressing "External Editor" in a tbird reply window, nothing happens.
>
> Wait -- hold everything! Exiting tbird and reloading it
> fixed all problems. :)
I probably should add in the document that the user should
restart Thunderbird after all modifications, just to be sure.
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* Re: [PATCH v2] Documentation: process: Update email client instructions for Thunderbird
2022-07-15 8:11 ` Sotir Danailov
@ 2022-07-15 18:55 ` Randy Dunlap
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Randy Dunlap @ 2022-07-15 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sotir Danailov, corbet; +Cc: linux-doc, linux-kernel, bagasdotme
On 7/15/22 01:11, Sotir Danailov wrote:
> Thank you for taking the time!
> I didn't expect the original author to participate. :D
> I probably should've sent a cc to you and others as well, sorry about that!
> Didn't do my research good enough I guess.
>
> On Fri 15 07 2022 01:18, Randy Dunlap wrote:
>>
>> Does thunderbird v91.11.0 qualify as newer or older?
>>
>> I tried to use the external-editor-revived yesterday with v1 of the patch..
>> no success.
>
> Do you think that the whole section about the
> old "External Editor" extension should be removed?
No, I don't. It's useful IMO.
>> v2 of the patch has more useful info (about native-messaging), so I installed
>> that and still not happy.
>> After pressing "External Editor" in a tbird reply window, nothing happens.
>>
>> Wait -- hold everything! Exiting tbird and reloading it
>> fixed all problems. :)
>
> I probably should add in the document that the user should
> restart Thunderbird after all modifications, just to be sure.
Please.
Thanks.
--
~Randy
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