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From: Ingo Oeser <ingo.oeser@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>
To: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@idb.hist.no>
Cc: "J . A . Magallon" <jamagallon@able.es>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: page_launder() bug
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:19:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010510141948.T754@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105070823060.24073-100000@svea.tellus> <3AF663F1.E04D90CE@idb.hist.no> <20010507210229.A7724@werewolf.able.es> <3AF7A5AF.789AC083@idb.hist.no>
In-Reply-To: <3AF7A5AF.789AC083@idb.hist.no>; from helgehaf@idb.hist.no on Tue, May 08, 2001 at 09:52:15AM +0200

On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 09:52:15AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:
> > Isn't this asking for trouble with the optimizer ? It could kill both
> > !!. Using that is like trusting on a certain struct padding-alignment.
> 
> No, this won't cause trouble with the optimizer, because the
> optimizer isn't supposed to do _wrong_ things.
 
Right. The optimizer proves equivalence of terms and exchange the
one that are bad for the optimization goal (e.g performance,
speed, size) against the one that works more towards this goal.

Everything else is an optimizer BUG, which should be reported and
fixed.

The C{89,99} standard now defines the syntax and semantics of
theses terms. 

Relevant for the optimizer: possible values of terms, assumptions
made on the static and dynamic behavior of these terms (add
anything I forgot).

So the optimizer should NEVER cause trouble if you write
completely valid C{89,99} and the compiler and environment
implement 100% of the semantics of it.

Compiler specific features should be seen as an addition to the
standard on this compiler. They follow the same rules stated
above.

Regards

Ingo Oeser
-- 
10.+11.03.2001 - 3. Chemnitzer LinuxTag <http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag>
         <<<<<<<<<<<<     been there and had much fun   >>>>>>>>>>>>

  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-10 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-06 21:08 page_launder() bug BERECZ Szabolcs
2001-05-06 21:59 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-06 22:07   ` BERECZ Szabolcs
2001-05-07  4:55 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-07  5:19   ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-05-07  6:26   ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-05-07  8:59     ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-07 19:02       ` J . A . Magallon
2001-05-08  7:52         ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-10 12:19           ` Ingo Oeser [this message]
2001-05-10 10:51         ` Anuradha Ratnaweera
2001-05-07 10:52     ` Alan Cox
2001-05-07 13:49     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-07 13:53     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-07  8:54   ` David S. Miller
2001-05-07 15:12     ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-05-07 14:52   ` Horst von Brand
     [not found]     ` <davem@redhat.com>
2001-11-21  7:16       ` [VM/MEMORY-SICKNESS] 2.4.15-pre7 kmem_cache_create invalid opcode Jeff V. Merkey
2001-11-21  6:22         ` David S. Miller
2001-11-21  6:47           ` David S. Miller
2001-11-21  6:54             ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  6:56             ` David S. Miller
2001-11-21  7:03               ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  7:49                 ` arjan
2001-11-21 18:31                   ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 19:06                     ` Doug Ledford
2001-11-21 19:51                       ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 19:58                         ` J Sloan
2001-11-21 20:38                         ` Doug Ledford
2001-11-21 21:17                           ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 19:16                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-11-21 19:53                       ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 20:36                         ` Doug Ledford
2001-11-21 21:16                           ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 21:28                           ` Robert Love
2001-11-21  7:09               ` David S. Miller
2001-11-21  7:14                 ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  7:28               ` Stuart Young
2001-11-21  7:33           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-11-21  6:54             ` Chris Abbey
2001-11-21  7:05               ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  6:47         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-11-21 18:28           ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  8:49         ` Alan Cox
2001-11-21 18:28           ` Jeff Merkey
2001-05-08 17:59   ` page_launder() bug Kai Henningsen
2001-05-09  2:32   ` Rusty Russell
2001-05-09  8:43     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-09  3:36   ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-07 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-07 21:22   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-07 23:23     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-07 21:50       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-07 23:52         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-07 22:26           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  2:29             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-13 16:08               ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 19:29                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14 22:05                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  0:16           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  2:34             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08  1:40               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  3:46                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08  2:37                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08 21:16                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08 23:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08 23:53                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-09  2:13                       ` David S. Miller
2001-05-09 17:38                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-09 20:05                         ` David S. Miller
2001-05-09 18:40                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-09 21:08                           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-09 19:50                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-13 16:34                         ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 19:34                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-13 19:39                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 20:42                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14  7:05                                 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-13 17:52                         ` David S. Miller
2001-05-13 17:55                           ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 18:00                           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  6:50                 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  7:40                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08 18:53                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  8:29                   ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  3:22               ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  3:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08  2:47             ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  1:34               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  3:18               ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  1:47                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  3:24                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08  3:29                 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08 10:36                   ` BERECZ Szabolcs
2001-05-08 12:33             ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-05-13 16:24               ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 21:02                 ` Another VM race? (was: page_launder() bug) Mikulas Patocka
2001-05-13 23:04                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-14  9:53                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-05-08  0:06         ` page_launder() bug David S. Miller
2001-05-07 23:31     ` David S. Miller
2001-05-07 22:44 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  1:00   ` Horst von Brand
2001-05-07  0:32 Jonathan Lundell

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