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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: page_launder() bug
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:38:47 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0105081635530.3618-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105081813160.9717-100000@freak.distro.conectiva>



On Tue, 8 May 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>
> There are two issues which I missed yesterday: we have to get a reference
> on the page, mark it clean, drop the locks and then call writepage(). If
> the writepage() fails, we'll have to set_page_dirty(page).

We can move the "mark it clean" into writepage, which would actually
simplify the error cases for shared memory writepage (no need to mark it
dirty again etc).

> I guess this is too much overhead for the common case, don't you?

You could easily be right.

On the other hand, remember that a noticeable part of the time you should
be seeing a real write too, so the CPU overhead compared to the IO might
not be prohibitive. Ie, let's assuem that 10% of the time we actually end
up doing writes, then that 10% is going to be _soo_ much more than the
extra 10 cycles 90% of the time that the cleanup may well be worth it.

Especially if the cleanup means that we can avoid doing some of the real
writes altogether, by being better able to release dead memory to the
system.

Tradeoffs..

		Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-08 23:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-06 21:08 page_launder() bug BERECZ Szabolcs
2001-05-06 21:59 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-06 22:07   ` BERECZ Szabolcs
2001-05-07  4:55 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-07  5:19   ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-05-07  6:26   ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-05-07  8:59     ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-07 19:02       ` J . A . Magallon
2001-05-08  7:52         ` Helge Hafting
2001-05-10 12:19           ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-10 10:51         ` Anuradha Ratnaweera
2001-05-07 10:52     ` Alan Cox
2001-05-07 13:49     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-07 13:53     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-07  8:54   ` David S. Miller
2001-05-07 15:12     ` Tobias Ringstrom
2001-05-07 14:52   ` Horst von Brand
     [not found]     ` <davem@redhat.com>
2001-11-21  7:16       ` [VM/MEMORY-SICKNESS] 2.4.15-pre7 kmem_cache_create invalid opcode Jeff V. Merkey
2001-11-21  6:22         ` David S. Miller
2001-11-21  6:47           ` David S. Miller
2001-11-21  6:54             ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  6:56             ` David S. Miller
2001-11-21  7:03               ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  7:49                 ` arjan
2001-11-21 18:31                   ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 19:06                     ` Doug Ledford
2001-11-21 19:51                       ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 19:58                         ` J Sloan
2001-11-21 20:38                         ` Doug Ledford
2001-11-21 21:17                           ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 19:16                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-11-21 19:53                       ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 20:36                         ` Doug Ledford
2001-11-21 21:16                           ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21 21:28                           ` Robert Love
2001-11-21  7:09               ` David S. Miller
2001-11-21  7:14                 ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  7:28               ` Stuart Young
2001-11-21  7:33           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-11-21  6:54             ` Chris Abbey
2001-11-21  7:05               ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  6:47         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-11-21 18:28           ` Jeff Merkey
2001-11-21  8:49         ` Alan Cox
2001-11-21 18:28           ` Jeff Merkey
2001-05-08 17:59   ` page_launder() bug Kai Henningsen
2001-05-09  2:32   ` Rusty Russell
2001-05-09  8:43     ` Martin Dalecki
2001-05-09  3:36   ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-07 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-07 21:22   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-07 23:23     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-07 21:50       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-07 23:52         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-07 22:26           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  2:29             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-13 16:08               ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 19:29                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14 22:05                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  0:16           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  2:34             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08  1:40               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  3:46                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08  2:37                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08 21:16                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08 23:38                     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2001-05-08 23:53                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-09  2:13                       ` David S. Miller
2001-05-09 17:38                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-09 20:05                         ` David S. Miller
2001-05-09 18:40                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-09 21:08                           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-09 19:50                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-13 16:34                         ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 19:34                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-13 19:39                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 20:42                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14  7:05                                 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-13 17:52                         ` David S. Miller
2001-05-13 17:55                           ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 18:00                           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  6:50                 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  7:40                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08 18:53                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  8:29                   ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  3:22               ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  3:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08  2:47             ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  1:34               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  3:18               ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  1:47                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-08  3:24                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-08  3:29                 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08 10:36                   ` BERECZ Szabolcs
2001-05-08 12:33             ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-05-13 16:24               ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-13 21:02                 ` Another VM race? (was: page_launder() bug) Mikulas Patocka
2001-05-13 23:04                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-14  9:53                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2001-05-08  0:06         ` page_launder() bug David S. Miller
2001-05-07 23:31     ` David S. Miller
2001-05-07 22:44 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-08  1:00   ` Horst von Brand
2001-05-07  0:32 Jonathan Lundell

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