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From: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Getting FS access events
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 22:27:17 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200105140427.f4E4RHY09517@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105140007400.4671-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>
In-Reply-To: <200105140239.f4E2dNd08399@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105140007400.4671-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>

Rik van Riel writes:
> On Sun, 13 May 2001, Richard Gooch wrote:
> > Larry McVoy writes:
> 
> > > Ha.  For once you're both wrong but not where you are thinking.  One
> > > of the few places that I actually hacked Linux was for exactly this
> > > - it was in the 0.99 days I think.  I saved the list of I/O's in a
> > > file and filled the buffer cache with them at next boot.  It
> > > actually didn't help at all.
> > 
> > Maybe you did something wrong :-)
> 
> How about "the data loads got instrumented, but the metadata
> loads which caused over half of the disk seeks didn't" ?
> 
> (just a wild guess ... if it turns out to be true we may want
> to look into doing agressive readahead on inode blocks ;))

Caching metadata is definately part of my cunning plan. I'd like to
think that once Al's metadata-in-page-cache patches go in, we'll get
that for free.

However, that will still leave indirect blocks unordered. I don't see
a clean way of fixing that. Which is why doing things at the block
device layer has it's attractions (except it doesn't work).

Hm. Is there a reason why the page cache can't see if a a block is in
the block cache, and read it from there first?

				Regards,

					Richard....
Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au
Current:   rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-05-14  4:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200105140117.f4E1HqN07362@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca>
2001-05-14  1:32 ` Getting FS access events Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14  1:45   ` Larry McVoy
2001-05-14  2:39   ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14  3:09     ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-14  4:27     ` Richard Gooch [this message]
2001-05-15  4:37     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-23 11:37       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-14  2:24 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14  4:46   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14  5:15   ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14 13:04     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-14 18:00       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-14 20:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14 23:19     ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15  0:42       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-15  4:00       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  4:35         ` Larry McVoy
2001-05-15  4:59           ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 17:01             ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-15  4:43         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  5:04           ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 16:17           ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 19:39             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-19 19:44               ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 19:47                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-23 11:29                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-20  4:30               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-20 19:47                 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18  7:55           ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-23 11:36             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-15  4:57         ` David S. Miller
2001-05-15  5:12           ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15  9:10           ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15  9:48             ` Lars Brinkhoff
2001-05-15  9:54               ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:17               ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 20:58                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 21:08                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15  6:20         ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15  6:28           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  6:49           ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15  6:57             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 10:33               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-15 10:44                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 14:42                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-15  7:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  7:56               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-15  8:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  8:33                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 10:27                     ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-15 16:00                     ` Chris Mason
2001-05-15 19:26                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:03                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:07                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:15                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:17                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:22                               ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:26                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:31                                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 21:12                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 21:22                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 21:02                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 21:53                                   ` Jan Harkes
2001-05-19  5:26                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-15 10:04             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-05-15 19:28               ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 22:31                 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-05-15 22:35                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16  1:17                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-05-16  1:30                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16  8:34                     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-05-16 16:27                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 16:26             ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-15 18:02             ` Craig Milo Rogers
2001-05-15  6:13       ` Richard Gooch

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