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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.10-pre11
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:11:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010918081146.J698@athlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109171608310.1108-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <3BA6E032.587A1DBF@zip.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <3BA6E032.587A1DBF@zip.com.au>; from akpm@zip.com.au on Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 10:48:34PM -0700

On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 10:48:34PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, the big thing here is continued merging, this time with Andrea.
> > 
> 
> In one test here the VM changes seem fragile, and slower.
> 
> Dual x86, 512 megs RAM, 512 megs swap.  No highmem.
> 
> The workload is:
> 
> 	while true
> 	do
> 		/usr/src/ext3/tools/usemem 300
> 	done
> 
> 	(This just mallocs 300 megs, touches it then exits)
> 
> in parallel with
> 
> 	time /usr/src/ext3/tools/bash-shared-mapping -n 5 -t 3 foo 300000000
> 
> on ext2.
> 
> (bash-shared-mapping is a tool which I wrote for ext3.  It's one of the
>  most aggressive VM/MM stress testers around, and has found a number of
>  kernel bugs).
> 
> On 2.4.9-ac10, the b-s-m run took 294 seconds.  On 2.4.10-pre11 it
> took 330 seconds DESPITE the fact that one of the b-s-m instances
> was oom-killed quite early in the test.
> 
> `vmstat' took about thirty seconds to start (this is usual), but
> was promptly killed, despite having (presumably) a small RSS.  Instances
> of `usemem' were oom-killed quite frequently.  In 2.4.9-ac10, nothing
> was oom-killed.

should be the very same problem identified by Marcelo. I'm wondering why
I didn't reproduced here during testing, 512mbytes is not highmem and my
desktop has 512mbytes too and it didn't killed anything yet. As for the
slowdown there are a few localized places to look at. but let's fix the
oom first.

> Andrea, it would be most useful if you were to spend some time (say, four hours)
> commenting the code and telling us how it works.

I will do that and I'll answer to any question ASAP, no panic. We may
even want to change part of the core logic over time if it doesn't
perform wonderfully. But first prio at the moment is to fix the oom you
also noticed (the "hiding" logic mentioned by Marcelo), the rest of the
changes should be a very solid base for a very solid and fast 2.4 vm.

Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-18  6:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-18  0:08 Linux 2.4.10-pre11 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 23:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  1:08   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  3:37     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  2:25       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  3:58         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  2:53           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  4:54             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  3:33               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  5:06                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  3:55                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  5:32                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  4:14                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  5:59                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:00                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
     [not found] ` <20010917211834.A31693@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <20010918035055.J698@athlon.random>
2001-09-18  2:02     ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]     ` <20010917221653.B31693@redhat.com>
2001-09-18  2:27       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18  3:14         ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18  3:26         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]       ` <20010918052201.N698@athlon.random>
2001-09-18  4:01         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-18  4:39           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:04             ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18  5:09               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:22             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-18  5:48               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:48 ` Andrew Morton
2001-09-18  6:11   ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2001-09-18  5:02     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  6:40       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 16:06         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 19:18           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 21:05             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 13:57               ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-18 10:58   ` Martin Dalecki
2001-09-18  9:31 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18  9:39   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  9:44     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18  9:57       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 10:02         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 10:17           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 10:28             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 10:35               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 10:52                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 11:05             ` Helge Hafting
2001-09-18 12:40               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 17:02             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 16:45   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 18:19     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 18:27       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 19:14         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-09-18 19:41           ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 20:33           ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-18 20:53             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 21:06             ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-18 21:27               ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 19:29         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-18 20:17         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-18 20:33           ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 13:42           ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-19 14:27             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19  2:59         ` Michael Peddemors
2001-09-19 16:11         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 18:25           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 19:21             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 20:55               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 21:17                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 23:01                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 23:03                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 23:30                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 23:40                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 13:56                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 14:38                           ` Chris Mason
2001-09-20 14:50                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 15:44                               ` Chris Mason
2001-09-20 16:43                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 20:54                                   ` [PATCH] fs/block_dev.c cleanup Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 22:15                 ` Linux 2.4.10-pre11 Richard Gooch
2001-09-20  2:34               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 10:52                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 18:18                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 18:33                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 18:59                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 20:41                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 21:18                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 21:40                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 22:13                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 22:20                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 22:31                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 22:44                                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 23:03                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 23:11                                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-21  1:50                                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-21  2:42                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  3:47                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  4:00                                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-21  4:06                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  4:06                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  4:46                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  7:09                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 20:41             ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-19 13:38       ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-19 16:35       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  3:18 Ed Tomlinson
2001-09-18  2:31 ` Magnus Naeslund(f)
2001-09-18  2:49   ` David B. Stevens
2001-09-18  3:38   ` Ed Tomlinson
2001-09-18  3:15 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18  4:41   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-18  6:14 Alexei Podtelezhnikov
2001-09-18 13:51 ` Rik van Riel

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