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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.10-pre11
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 22:48:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BA6E032.587A1DBF@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109171608310.1108-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> Ok, the big thing here is continued merging, this time with Andrea.
> 

In one test here the VM changes seem fragile, and slower.

Dual x86, 512 megs RAM, 512 megs swap.  No highmem.

The workload is:

	while true
	do
		/usr/src/ext3/tools/usemem 300
	done

	(This just mallocs 300 megs, touches it then exits)

in parallel with

	time /usr/src/ext3/tools/bash-shared-mapping -n 5 -t 3 foo 300000000

on ext2.

(bash-shared-mapping is a tool which I wrote for ext3.  It's one of the
 most aggressive VM/MM stress testers around, and has found a number of
 kernel bugs).

On 2.4.9-ac10, the b-s-m run took 294 seconds.  On 2.4.10-pre11 it
took 330 seconds DESPITE the fact that one of the b-s-m instances
was oom-killed quite early in the test.

`vmstat' took about thirty seconds to start (this is usual), but
was promptly killed, despite having (presumably) a small RSS.  Instances
of `usemem' were oom-killed quite frequently.  In 2.4.9-ac10, nothing
was oom-killed.

With a gig of VM and a 600 meg working set I don't see why it's necessary
to kill processes?   Each oom-kill was associated with a 0-order allocation
failure.

These tools are available at http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/ext3-tools.tar.gz

OK, so this was a seriously loony workload.  But suddenly, the number of people
who understand the Linux VM has gone from maybe 10 down to just one-and-a-bit.
A large number of comments have been removed, and a year's worth of
discussion has been invalidated.

Andrea, it would be most useful if you were to spend some time (say, four hours)
commenting the code and telling us how it works.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-09-18  5:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-18  0:08 Linux 2.4.10-pre11 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 23:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  1:08   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  3:37     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  2:25       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  3:58         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  2:53           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  4:54             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  3:33               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  5:06                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  3:55                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  5:32                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  4:14                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  5:59                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:00                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
     [not found] ` <20010917211834.A31693@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <20010918035055.J698@athlon.random>
2001-09-18  2:02     ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]     ` <20010917221653.B31693@redhat.com>
2001-09-18  2:27       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18  3:14         ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18  3:26         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]       ` <20010918052201.N698@athlon.random>
2001-09-18  4:01         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-18  4:39           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:04             ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18  5:09               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:22             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-18  5:48               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:48 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2001-09-18  6:11   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:02     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  6:40       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 16:06         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 19:18           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 21:05             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 13:57               ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-18 10:58   ` Martin Dalecki
2001-09-18  9:31 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18  9:39   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  9:44     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18  9:57       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 10:02         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 10:17           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 10:28             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 10:35               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 10:52                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 11:05             ` Helge Hafting
2001-09-18 12:40               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 17:02             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 16:45   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 18:19     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 18:27       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 19:14         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-09-18 19:41           ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 20:33           ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-18 20:53             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 21:06             ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-18 21:27               ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 19:29         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-18 20:17         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-18 20:33           ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 13:42           ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-19 14:27             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19  2:59         ` Michael Peddemors
2001-09-19 16:11         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 18:25           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 19:21             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 20:55               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 21:17                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 23:01                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 23:03                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 23:30                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 23:40                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 13:56                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 14:38                           ` Chris Mason
2001-09-20 14:50                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 15:44                               ` Chris Mason
2001-09-20 16:43                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 20:54                                   ` [PATCH] fs/block_dev.c cleanup Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 22:15                 ` Linux 2.4.10-pre11 Richard Gooch
2001-09-20  2:34               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 10:52                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 18:18                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 18:33                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 18:59                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 20:41                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 21:18                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 21:40                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 22:13                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 22:20                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 22:31                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 22:44                                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 23:03                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 23:11                                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-21  1:50                                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-21  2:42                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  3:47                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  4:00                                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-21  4:06                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  4:06                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  4:46                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  7:09                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 20:41             ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-19 13:38       ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-19 16:35       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  3:18 Ed Tomlinson
2001-09-18  2:31 ` Magnus Naeslund(f)
2001-09-18  2:49   ` David B. Stevens
2001-09-18  3:38   ` Ed Tomlinson
2001-09-18  3:15 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18  4:41   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-18  6:14 Alexei Podtelezhnikov
2001-09-18 13:51 ` Rik van Riel

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