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* __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
@ 2001-09-24  2:02 Jacek Popławski
  2001-09-24 11:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
  2001-09-24 12:58 ` Christian Bornträger
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Jacek Popławski @ 2001-09-24  2:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

I just installed 2.4.10, and...

__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
VM: killing process donkey_s
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1f0/0) from c0126c2e
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
VM: killing process screen
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
VM: killing process bash
(...)

I am changing kernels often, but never seen that kind of message. Last kernel I
had before 2.4.10 was 2.4.10-pre4.

PS. donkey_s is application which eats a lot of memory, but I have 384MB RAM
and 100MB swap.

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24 11:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
@ 2001-09-24  8:13   ` Paul Larson
  2001-09-24 12:38     ` Marcelo Tosatti
  2001-09-24  9:01   ` Paul Larson
                     ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Paul Larson @ 2001-09-24  8:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lkml

On 24 Sep 2001 08:12:20 -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Jacek [iso-8859-2] Pop³awski wrote:
> 
> > I just installed 2.4.10, and...
> > 
> > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> > VM: killing process donkey_s
...

I'm getting a lot of this with 2.4.10 also.  At the time, I had KDM
running, but I was coming into the box over telnet and running the
latest released version of LTP.  The test it appeared to be on at the
time was a filesystem test called growfiles.  Nothing else was running
other than these things and standard system services.  The machine has
256 MB of ram, and 512 MB swap.  The order that things got killed in
were sadc, sar, kdm, X, in.telnetd, xinetd (ouch).


__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0xf0/0) from c012b9b2
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c012b9b2
VM: killing process xinetd
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c012b9b2
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c012b9b2
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c012b9b2

Thanks,
Paul Larson


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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24 11:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
  2001-09-24  8:13   ` Paul Larson
@ 2001-09-24  9:01   ` Paul Larson
  2001-09-24 15:54   ` Olaf Hering
  2001-09-24 21:03   ` Jacek Popławski
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Paul Larson @ 2001-09-24  9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lkml

I just remembered that my sar output file is still around from before
sar got killed, so I thought you might like to see the tail end of -r on
it.  Memory utilization got pretty high before sar got killed, but swap
was still at almost nothing:

07:34:18    kbmemfree kbmemused  %memused kbmemshrd kbbuffers  kbcached kbswpfree kbswpused  %swpused
07:34:19        59620    194728     76.56         0      6052    146688    530136         0      0.00
07:34:20        50572    203776     80.12         0      6052    155736    530136         0      0.00
07:34:21        41488    212860     83.69         0      6052    164820    530136         0      0.00
07:34:22        32484    221864     87.23         0      6056    173820    530136         0      0.00
07:34:23        23372    230976     90.81         0      6064    182924    530136         0      0.00
07:34:24        14012    240336     94.49         0      6072    192276    530136         0      0.00
07:34:25         4980    249368     98.04         0      6080    201300    530136         0      0.00
07:34:26         3876    250472     98.48         0      6088    202468    530136         0      0.00
07:34:27         3664    250684     98.56         0      3324    205444    530136         0      0.00
07:34:28         3560    250788     98.60         0      1248    207624    530136         0      0.00
07:34:29         3764    250584     98.52         0       244    208424    530136         0      0.00
07:34:30         4180    250168     98.36         0       148    209272    529532       604      0.11
07:34:31         4072    250276     98.40         0       100    213304    526196      3940      0.74
07:34:32         3488    250860     98.63         0        96    218204    519968     10168      1.92
Average:       122043    132305     52.02         0      5848     84739    530055        81      0.02

-Paul Larson

On 24 Sep 2001 08:13:42 +0000, Paul Larson wrote:
> I'm getting a lot of this with 2.4.10 also.  At the time, I had KDM
> running, but I was coming into the box over telnet and running the
> latest released version of LTP.  The test it appeared to be on at the
> time was a filesystem test called growfiles.  Nothing else was running
> other than these things and standard system services.  The machine has
> 256 MB of ram, and 512 MB swap.  The order that things got killed in
> were sadc, sar, kdm, X, in.telnetd, xinetd (ouch).
> 
> 
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0xf0/0) from c012b9b2
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c012b9b2
> VM: killing process xinetd
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c012b9b2
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c012b9b2
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c012b9b2
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul Larson
> 
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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24  2:02 __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed Jacek Popławski
@ 2001-09-24 11:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
  2001-09-24  8:13   ` Paul Larson
                     ` (3 more replies)
  2001-09-24 12:58 ` Christian Bornträger
  1 sibling, 4 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Marcelo Tosatti @ 2001-09-24 11:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jacek Popławski; +Cc: lkml



On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Jacek [iso-8859-2] Pop³awski wrote:

> I just installed 2.4.10, and...
> 
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> VM: killing process donkey_s
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1f0/0) from c0126c2e
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> VM: killing process screen
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> VM: killing process bash
> (...)
> 
> I am changing kernels often, but never seen that kind of message. Last kernel I
> had before 2.4.10 was 2.4.10-pre4.
> 
> PS. donkey_s is application which eats a lot of memory, but I have 384MB RAM
> and 100MB swap.

Jacek, 

You had available swap when the VM started to kill processes ? 


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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24 12:38     ` Marcelo Tosatti
@ 2001-09-24 11:35       ` Paul Larson
  2001-09-24 15:12         ` Marcelo Tosatti
  2001-09-26 13:48         ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2001-09-24 15:33       ` Christian Bornträger
  2001-09-25 22:09       ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Paul Larson @ 2001-09-24 11:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marcelo Tosatti; +Cc: lkml


The patch helped for me, but there are still problems.  I was able to
run all the way through LTP without it shutting anything down.  When I
used one of the memory tests to chew up all the ram though, I noticed
that VM was killing things it shouldn't have.  First thing to get killed
was cron, then top, then it finally killed mtest01 (the memory test
mentioned before).


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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24  8:13   ` Paul Larson
@ 2001-09-24 12:38     ` Marcelo Tosatti
  2001-09-24 11:35       ` Paul Larson
                         ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Marcelo Tosatti @ 2001-09-24 12:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paul Larson, Linus Torvalds
  Cc: Christian Bornträger, Jacek [iso-8859-2] Pop³awski, lkml



On 24 Sep 2001, Paul Larson wrote:

> On 24 Sep 2001 08:12:20 -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Jacek [iso-8859-2] Pop³awski wrote:
> > 
> > > I just installed 2.4.10, and...
> > > 
> > > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> > > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> > > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> > > VM: killing process donkey_s
> ...
> 
> I'm getting a lot of this with 2.4.10 also.  At the time, I had KDM
> running, but I was coming into the box over telnet and running the
> latest released version of LTP.  The test it appeared to be on at the
> time was a filesystem test called growfiles.  Nothing else was running
> other than these things and standard system services.  The machine has
> 256 MB of ram, and 512 MB swap.  The order that things got killed in
> were sadc, sar, kdm, X, in.telnetd, xinetd (ouch).
> 
> 
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0xf0/0) from c012b9b2
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c012b9b2
> VM: killing process xinetd
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c012b9b2
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c012b9b2
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c012b9b2

For the people having the allocation failure problems, please try the
following patch. 

Currently the page freeing success accounting is completly broken (it does
not report a task has made progress while it did), and the page allocation
code uses that information to know if it should or not try to keep calling
the freeing code.

Please test this. 

--- linux.orig/mm/vmscan.c	Mon Sep 24 10:36:40 2001
+++ linux/mm/vmscan.c	Mon Sep 24 10:54:01 2001
@@ -567,6 +567,9 @@
 		if (nr_pages <= 0)
 			return 1;
 
+		if (nr_pages < SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX)
+			ret |= 1;
+
 		ret |= swap_out(priority, classzone, gfp_mask, SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX << 2);
 	} while (--priority);
 
--- linux.orig/mm/page_alloc.c	Mon Sep 24 10:36:40 2001
+++ linux/mm/page_alloc.c	Mon Sep 24 10:44:12 2001
@@ -400,7 +400,7 @@
 			if (!z)
 				break;
 
-			if (zone_free_pages(z, order) > z->pages_high) {
+			if (zone_free_pages(z, order) > z->pages_min) {
 				page = rmqueue(z, order);
 				if (page)
 					return page;


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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24  2:02 __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed Jacek Popławski
  2001-09-24 11:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
@ 2001-09-24 12:58 ` Christian Bornträger
  2001-09-24 13:05   ` Arjan van de Ven
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Christian Bornträger @ 2001-09-24 12:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

> I just installed 2.4.10, and...
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e

I saw the same message when running this c++ programm.

int main (int argc, char * argv[]) {
char * test;
while (1)
test=new char[1024];
}

My dmesg:

__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c01219e7
VM: killing process a.out

I have 512 MB RAM and no swap.
Actually the system slowed down a lot but worked fine again after the kill.
And a flood ping from another PC had no lost packages. 


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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24 12:58 ` Christian Bornträger
@ 2001-09-24 13:05   ` Arjan van de Ven
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Arjan van de Ven @ 2001-09-24 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian Bornträger; +Cc: linux-kernel

Christian Bornträger wrote:
> 
> > I just installed 2.4.10, and...
> > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> 
> I saw the same message when running this c++ programm.
> 
> int main (int argc, char * argv[]) {
> char * test;
> while (1)
> test=new char[1024];
> }
> 
> My dmesg:
> 
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c01219e7
> VM: killing process a.out

While this program is obviously "bad", it does show that something
is not right. It should print "OOM: killing process a.out" as the
kernel will have to deliberatly kill this "out of hand" program.
the "VM: killing" message means it could just as easily have killed
another program due to this DoS program...

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24 11:35       ` Paul Larson
@ 2001-09-24 15:12         ` Marcelo Tosatti
  2001-09-24 19:48           ` tpepper
  2001-09-26 13:48         ` Andrea Arcangeli
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Marcelo Tosatti @ 2001-09-24 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paul Larson; +Cc: lkml



On 24 Sep 2001, Paul Larson wrote:

> 
> The patch helped for me, but there are still problems.  I was able to
> run all the way through LTP without it shutting anything down.  When I
> used one of the memory tests to chew up all the ram though, I noticed
> that VM was killing things it shouldn't have.  First thing to get killed
> was cron, then top, then it finally killed mtest01 (the memory test
> mentioned before).

Ok, its good to know that the patch at least helped.

Watch out for another patch in hours.


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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24 12:38     ` Marcelo Tosatti
  2001-09-24 11:35       ` Paul Larson
@ 2001-09-24 15:33       ` Christian Bornträger
  2001-09-25 22:09       ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Christian Bornträger @ 2001-09-24 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marcelo Tosatti; +Cc: linux-kernel, Linus Torvalds

> For the people having the allocation failure problems, please try the
> following patch.

I tried it. No success.
dmesg: after the "bad" program I wrote some mail ago.

__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0123cc1
VM: killing process a.out

I forgot to mention:

c0123c60 t page_cache_read
c0123d10 t read_cluster_nonblocking

If you need  a backtrace, we should insert a panic into the code to get a 
full back trace for the debugging.

greetings

Christian Bornträger

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24 11:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
  2001-09-24  8:13   ` Paul Larson
  2001-09-24  9:01   ` Paul Larson
@ 2001-09-24 15:54   ` Olaf Hering
  2001-09-24 16:06     ` Olaf Hering
  2001-09-24 21:03   ` Jacek Popławski
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Olaf Hering @ 2001-09-24 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marcelo Tosatti; +Cc: lkml

On Mon, Sep 24, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Jacek [iso-8859-2] Pop³awski wrote:
> 
> > I just installed 2.4.10, and...
> > 
> > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> > VM: killing process donkey_s
> > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1f0/0) from c0126c2e
> > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> > VM: killing process screen
> > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
> > VM: killing process bash
> > (...)
> > 
> > I am changing kernels often, but never seen that kind of message. Last kernel I
> > had before 2.4.10 was 2.4.10-pre4.
> > 
> > PS. donkey_s is application which eats a lot of memory, but I have 384MB RAM
> > and 100MB swap.
> 
> Jacek, 
> 
> You had available swap when the VM started to kill processes ? 

I see that too with 2.4.10aa1 on a 4way 2gig ppc power3 box without
swap:

mandarine:~ # w
bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
mandarine:~ # w
bash: /usr/bin/w: Cannot allocate memory
mandarine:~ # w
  5:50pm  up 13 min,  3 users,  load average: 6.27, 3.30, 1.67
USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
root     ttyS0    -                 5:39pm  3.00s  3.19s  1.51s  w 
olaf     pts/0    nectarine.suse.d  5:39pm  9:45  43.90s  0.06s  sh
do_all 
olh      pts/1    nectarine.suse.d  5:48pm  7.00s  0.79s  0.79s  -bash 
mandarine:~ # free
bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
mandarine:~ # dmesg | tail
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1f0/0)
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1f0/0)
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x70/0)
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x70/0)
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x70/0)
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x70/0)
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x70/0)
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x70/0)
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1f0/0)
VM: killing process cc1
mandarine:~ # free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers
cached
Mem:       2057304    2052932       4372          0      53480
1792468
-/+ buffers/cache:     206984    1850320
Swap:            0          0          0
mandarine:~ # free
bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
mandarine:~ # vmstat
bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
mandarine:~ # vmstat
bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
mandarine:~ # vmstat
bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
mandarine:~ # vmstat
bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
mandarine:~ # vmstat
bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
mandarine:~ # vmstat
   procs                      memory    swap          io     system
cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us
sy  id
 3  0  1      0   2744  53944 1794968   0   0   440   343   75   300  14
28  58
mandarine:~ # free
Killed


That did not happen with pre10aa1, at least the OOM kills.
I happend with a bk pull, a build in the background. I seems that it
doesnt release some memory...

Gruss Olaf

-- 
 $ man clone

BUGS
       Main feature not yet implemented...

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24 15:54   ` Olaf Hering
@ 2001-09-24 16:06     ` Olaf Hering
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Olaf Hering @ 2001-09-24 16:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marcelo Tosatti; +Cc: lkml

On Mon, Sep 24, Olaf Hering wrote:

> mandarine:~ # vmstat
>    procs                      memory    swap          io     system
> cpu
>  r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us
> sy  id
>  3  0  1      0   2744  53944 1794968   0   0   440   343   75   300  14
> 28  58
> mandarine:~ # free
> Killed
> 
> 
> That did not happen with pre10aa1, at least the OOM kills.
> I happend with a bk pull, a build in the background. I seems that it
> doesnt release some memory...

it seems that the cache grows and grows, one bk process was still active. No idea
who to blame, but it should not kill the box :)

27429 pts/0    D      3:59 bk idcache -q


Gruss Olaf

-- 
 $ man clone

BUGS
       Main feature not yet implemented...

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24 15:12         ` Marcelo Tosatti
@ 2001-09-24 19:48           ` tpepper
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: tpepper @ 2001-09-24 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marcelo Tosatti; +Cc: Paul Larson, lkml

Just to confirm I'm seeing this also.  I've a machine with 512mb ram and a
gig of swap.  Running a filesystem i/o stress test app causes the machine
to pretty much run out of memory.  The swap is hardly touched.  Then the
VM starts killing things...klogd, the file i/o app, the shell it was in...

I didn't see any significant change here with the patch.

Here's meminfo prior to and towards the end of things for what it's worth:

[root@foobox /root]# cat /proc/meminfo 
        total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
				Mem:  526299136 66060288 460238848        0   864256 21032960
				Swap: 1074765824  4374528 1070391296
				MemTotal:       513964 kB
				MemFree:        449452 kB
				MemShared:           0 kB
				Buffers:           844 kB
				Cached:          16268 kB
				SwapCached:       4272 kB
				Active:           5804 kB
				Inactive:        15580 kB
				HighTotal:           0 kB
				HighFree:            0 kB
				LowTotal:       513964 kB
				LowFree:        449452 kB
				SwapTotal:     1049576 kB
				SwapFree:      1045304 kB

[root@foobox /root]# cat /proc/meminfo 
        total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
				Mem:  526299136 522604544  3694592        0  1212416 435134464
				Swap: 1074765824  3366912 1071398912
				MemTotal:       513964 kB
				MemFree:          3608 kB
				MemShared:           0 kB
				Buffers:          1184 kB
				Cached:         424784 kB
				SwapCached:        152 kB
				Active:         356640 kB
				Inactive:        69480 kB
				HighTotal:           0 kB
				HighFree:            0 kB
				LowTotal:       513964 kB
				LowFree:          3608 kB
				SwapTotal:     1049576 kB
				SwapFree:      1046288 kB

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24 11:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
                     ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2001-09-24 15:54   ` Olaf Hering
@ 2001-09-24 21:03   ` Jacek Popławski
  2001-09-24 21:11     ` Jacek Popławski
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Jacek Popławski @ 2001-09-24 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 08:12:20AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> Jacek, 
> 
> You had available swap when the VM started to kill processes ? 

Application eats whole memory, then started using swap, when swap used is 10MB
kernel starting to cry:

[root@localhost /root]# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        320616     317348       3268          0        120     304096
-/+ buffers/cache:      13132     307484
Swap:       104380      10208      94172
[root@localhost /root]# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        320616     318932       1684          0        136     305372
-/+ buffers/cache:      13424     307192
Swap:       104380      10072      94308
[root@localhost /root]# __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        320616     318884       1732          0        128     305636
-/+ buffers/cache:      13120     307496
Swap:       104380      10204      94176
[root@localhost /root]# __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
VM: killing process donkey_s
free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        320616     318732       1884          0        116     305480
-/+ buffers/cache:      13136     307480
Swap:       104380       9312      95068


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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24 21:03   ` Jacek Popławski
@ 2001-09-24 21:11     ` Jacek Popławski
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Jacek Popławski @ 2001-09-24 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 11:03:46PM +0200, Jacek Popławski wrote:
> VM: killing process donkey_s
> free
>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> Mem:        320616     318732       1884          0        116     305480
> -/+ buffers/cache:      13136     307480
> Swap:       104380       9312      95068

and it's getting worse (donkey_s is already killed!):

             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        320616     318828       1788          0        112     305596
-/+ buffers/cache:      13120     307496
Swap:       104380      10472      93908
[root@localhost /root]# __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
VM: killing process sendmail
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0126c2e
VM: killing process sendmail
(...)

PS. uptime=5h, no problems before I started "donkey_s"

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-25 22:09       ` Andrea Arcangeli
@ 2001-09-25 21:25         ` Marcelo Tosatti
  2001-09-25 23:05           ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2001-09-25 22:16         ` Christian Bornträger
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Marcelo Tosatti @ 2001-09-25 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrea Arcangeli
  Cc: Paul Larson, Linus Torvalds, Christian Bornträger,
	Jacek [iso-8859-2] Pop³awski, lkml



On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:38:24AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > --- linux.orig/mm/vmscan.c	Mon Sep 24 10:36:40 2001
> > +++ linux/mm/vmscan.c	Mon Sep 24 10:54:01 2001
> > @@ -567,6 +567,9 @@
> >  		if (nr_pages <= 0)
> >  			return 1;
> >  
> > +		if (nr_pages < SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX)
> > +			ret |= 1;
> > +
> 
> too much permissive (vm-tweaks-1 does something similar but not that
> permissive)

Andrea,

Does vm-tweaks-1 fixes the current problem we're seeing? 

Also, we have to make sure _all_ progress accounting is being done
correctly (i/dcache, etc). I'll make sure that happens as soon as the OOM
problem is gone.

> >  		ret |= swap_out(priority, classzone, gfp_mask, SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX << 2);
> >  	} while (--priority);
> >  
> > --- linux.orig/mm/page_alloc.c	Mon Sep 24 10:36:40 2001
> > +++ linux/mm/page_alloc.c	Mon Sep 24 10:44:12 2001
> > @@ -400,7 +400,7 @@
> >  			if (!z)
> >  				break;
> >  
> > -			if (zone_free_pages(z, order) > z->pages_high) {
> > +			if (zone_free_pages(z, order) > z->pages_min) {
> 
> that breaks oom detection.

Why? 


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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24 12:38     ` Marcelo Tosatti
  2001-09-24 11:35       ` Paul Larson
  2001-09-24 15:33       ` Christian Bornträger
@ 2001-09-25 22:09       ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2001-09-25 21:25         ` Marcelo Tosatti
  2001-09-25 22:16         ` Christian Bornträger
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2001-09-25 22:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marcelo Tosatti
  Cc: Paul Larson, Linus Torvalds, Christian Bornträger,
	Jacek [iso-8859-2] Pop³awski, lkml

On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:38:24AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> --- linux.orig/mm/vmscan.c	Mon Sep 24 10:36:40 2001
> +++ linux/mm/vmscan.c	Mon Sep 24 10:54:01 2001
> @@ -567,6 +567,9 @@
>  		if (nr_pages <= 0)
>  			return 1;
>  
> +		if (nr_pages < SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX)
> +			ret |= 1;
> +

too much permissive (vm-tweaks-1 does something similar but not that
permissive)

>  		ret |= swap_out(priority, classzone, gfp_mask, SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX << 2);
>  	} while (--priority);
>  
> --- linux.orig/mm/page_alloc.c	Mon Sep 24 10:36:40 2001
> +++ linux/mm/page_alloc.c	Mon Sep 24 10:44:12 2001
> @@ -400,7 +400,7 @@
>  			if (!z)
>  				break;
>  
> -			if (zone_free_pages(z, order) > z->pages_high) {
> +			if (zone_free_pages(z, order) > z->pages_min) {

that breaks oom detection.

Andrea

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-25 22:09       ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2001-09-25 21:25         ` Marcelo Tosatti
@ 2001-09-25 22:16         ` Christian Bornträger
  2001-09-25 23:01           ` Andrea Arcangeli
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Christian Bornträger @ 2001-09-25 22:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrea Arcangeli, Marcelo Tosatti
  Cc: Paul Larson, Linus Torvalds, Christian Bornträger,
	Jacek[iso-8859-2]Pop³awski, lkml

> too much permissive (vm-tweaks-1 does something similar but not that
> permissive)

But it doesnt help neither.  I installed vm-tweaks-1 on a vanilla 2.4.10 and 
still got an __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failure
I have no swap and 512 MB of RAM.




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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-25 22:16         ` Christian Bornträger
@ 2001-09-25 23:01           ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2001-09-25 23:10             ` Christian Bornträger
  2001-09-25 23:24             ` Christian Bornträger
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2001-09-25 23:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian Bornträger
  Cc: Marcelo Tosatti, Paul Larson, Linus Torvalds,
	Jacek[iso-8859-2]Pop³awski, lkml

On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:16:53AM +0200, Christian Bornträger wrote:
> > too much permissive (vm-tweaks-1 does something similar but not that
> > permissive)
> 
> But it doesnt help neither.  I installed vm-tweaks-1 on a vanilla 2.4.10 and 
> still got an __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failure
> I have no swap and 512 MB of RAM.

Could you enable CONFIG_DEBUG_GFP (kernel debugging menu) in 2.4.10aa1
and send me full traces of the faliures so I can better see where the
problem cames from? Thanks!

Andrea

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-25 21:25         ` Marcelo Tosatti
@ 2001-09-25 23:05           ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2001-09-26 18:15             ` tpepper
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2001-09-25 23:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marcelo Tosatti
  Cc: Paul Larson, Linus Torvalds, Christian Bornträger,
	Jacek [iso-8859-2] Pop³awski, lkml

On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 06:25:10PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:38:24AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > --- linux.orig/mm/vmscan.c	Mon Sep 24 10:36:40 2001
> > > +++ linux/mm/vmscan.c	Mon Sep 24 10:54:01 2001
> > > @@ -567,6 +567,9 @@
> > >  		if (nr_pages <= 0)
> > >  			return 1;
> > >  
> > > +		if (nr_pages < SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX)
> > > +			ret |= 1;
> > > +
> > 
> > too much permissive (vm-tweaks-1 does something similar but not that
> > permissive)
> 
> Andrea,
> 
> Does vm-tweaks-1 fixes the current problem we're seeing? 

it seems no by reading the last email, however I'm not seeing any
problem, the DEBUG_GFP will tell us where the problem cames from,
pssobly it's a highmem thing since I never reproduced anything bad here.
But the point is that the above isn't going to be a right fix anyways.

> Also, we have to make sure _all_ progress accounting is being done
> correctly (i/dcache, etc). I'll make sure that happens as soon as the OOM
> problem is gone.
> 
> > >  		ret |= swap_out(priority, classzone, gfp_mask, SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX << 2);
> > >  	} while (--priority);
> > >  
> > > --- linux.orig/mm/page_alloc.c	Mon Sep 24 10:36:40 2001
> > > +++ linux/mm/page_alloc.c	Mon Sep 24 10:44:12 2001
> > > @@ -400,7 +400,7 @@
> > >  			if (!z)
> > >  				break;
> > >  
> > > -			if (zone_free_pages(z, order) > z->pages_high) {
> > > +			if (zone_free_pages(z, order) > z->pages_min) {
> > 
> > that breaks oom detection.
> 
> Why? 

the only point such code exists is to try to kill only one task, if the
killed task was the right one, such code can be dropped and still the
machine must not fail allocation unless truly oom, so any change there
cannot obviously fix anything related to early-oom-by-mistake.

Andrea

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-25 23:01           ` Andrea Arcangeli
@ 2001-09-25 23:10             ` Christian Bornträger
  2001-09-25 23:19               ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2001-09-25 23:24             ` Christian Bornträger
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Christian Bornträger @ 2001-09-25 23:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrea Arcangeli; +Cc: lkml

> Could you enable CONFIG_DEBUG_GFP (kernel debugging menu) in 2.4.10aa1
> and send me full traces of the faliures so I can better see where the
> problem cames from? Thanks!
>
> Andrea

Is it enough, to take a vanilla 2.4.10 and apply 00_debug-gfp-1 and 
00_vm-tweaks-1 or should I patch to a complete aa1. If yes, where can I find 
the complete aa1-Patch in one part?

greetings

Christian

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-25 23:10             ` Christian Bornträger
@ 2001-09-25 23:19               ` Andrea Arcangeli
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2001-09-25 23:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian Bornträger; +Cc: lkml

On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 01:10:07AM +0200, Christian Bornträger wrote:
> > Could you enable CONFIG_DEBUG_GFP (kernel debugging menu) in 2.4.10aa1
> > and send me full traces of the faliures so I can better see where the
> > problem cames from? Thanks!
> >
> > Andrea
> 
> Is it enough, to take a vanilla 2.4.10 and apply 00_debug-gfp-1 and 
> 00_vm-tweaks-1 or should I patch to a complete aa1. If yes, where can I find 

yes, that's enough, you don't need the complete aa1 just for that.

> the complete aa1-Patch in one part?

The whole aa1 patch can be found in the v2.4 directory called as
2.4.10aa1.bz2.

Andrea

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-25 23:01           ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2001-09-25 23:10             ` Christian Bornträger
@ 2001-09-25 23:24             ` Christian Bornträger
  2001-09-25 23:46               ` Andrea Arcangeli
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Christian Bornträger @ 2001-09-25 23:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrea Arcangeli
  Cc: Marcelo Tosatti, Paul Larson, Linus Torvalds,
	Jacek[iso-8859-2]Pop³awski, lkml

> Could you enable CONFIG_DEBUG_GFP (kernel debugging menu) in 2.4.10aa1
> and send me full traces of the faliures so I can better see where the
> problem cames from? Thanks!

OK, with the vm-tweaks and the gfp-patch I got the following output:

__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
dcb81e30 c01fd640 00000000 000001d2 00000000 00000000 dcb81e5c 00000001
       c0223848 c02239b8 000001d2 00000000 00000001 c1978d40 de9f30c0 de9855a0
       c01219d7 00000000 00000000 c012b35f c0223848 de9f30c0 c1978d40 00000001
Call Trace: [<c01219d7>] [<c012b35f>] [<c0121a60>] [<c0121b40>] [<c011152e>]
   [<c010adc2>] [<c0121e27>] [<c01113b0>] [<c0106dec>]
VM: killing process a.out


feeding it to ksymoops....:


dcb81e30 c01fd640 00000000 000001d2 00000000 00000000 dcb81e5c 00000001
       c0223848 c02239b8 000001d2 00000000 00000001 c1978d40 de9f30c0 de9855a0
       c01219d7 00000000 00000000 c012b35f c0223848 de9f30c0 c1978d40 00000001
Call Trace: [<c01219d7>] [<c012b35f>] [<c0121a60>] [<c0121b40>] [<c011152e>]
   [<c010adc2>] [<c0121e27>] [<c01113b0>] [<c0106dec>]
Warning (Oops_read): Code line not seen, dumping what data is available

Trace; c01219d7 <do_anonymous_page+37/90>
Trace; c012b35f <__alloc_pages+4f/240>
Trace; c0121a60 <do_no_page+30/b0>
Trace; c0121b40 <handle_mm_fault+60/d0>
Trace; c011152e <do_page_fault+17e/4b0>
Trace; c010adc2 <timer_interrupt+62/110>
Trace; c0121e27 <sys_brk+b7/f0>
Trace; c01113b0 <do_page_fault+0/4b0>
Trace; c0106dec <error_code+34/3c>


If you need a run on a complete aa1-patch, let me know.

greetings

Christian

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-25 23:24             ` Christian Bornträger
@ 2001-09-25 23:46               ` Andrea Arcangeli
  2001-09-26  7:29                 ` Christian Bornträger
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2001-09-25 23:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian Bornträger
  Cc: Marcelo Tosatti, Paul Larson, Linus Torvalds,
	Jacek[iso-8859-2]Pop³awski, lkml

On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 01:24:10AM +0200, Christian Bornträger wrote:
> > Could you enable CONFIG_DEBUG_GFP (kernel debugging menu) in 2.4.10aa1
> > and send me full traces of the faliures so I can better see where the
> > problem cames from? Thanks!
> 
> OK, with the vm-tweaks and the gfp-patch I got the following output:
> 
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0)
> dcb81e30 c01fd640 00000000 000001d2 00000000 00000000 dcb81e5c 00000001
>        c0223848 c02239b8 000001d2 00000000 00000001 c1978d40 de9f30c0 de9855a0
>        c01219d7 00000000 00000000 c012b35f c0223848 de9f30c0 c1978d40 00000001
> Call Trace: [<c01219d7>] [<c012b35f>] [<c0121a60>] [<c0121b40>] [<c011152e>]
>    [<c010adc2>] [<c0121e27>] [<c01113b0>] [<c0106dec>]
> VM: killing process a.out
> 
> 
> feeding it to ksymoops....:
> 
> 
> dcb81e30 c01fd640 00000000 000001d2 00000000 00000000 dcb81e5c 00000001
>        c0223848 c02239b8 000001d2 00000000 00000001 c1978d40 de9f30c0 de9855a0
>        c01219d7 00000000 00000000 c012b35f c0223848 de9f30c0 c1978d40 00000001
> Call Trace: [<c01219d7>] [<c012b35f>] [<c0121a60>] [<c0121b40>] [<c011152e>]
>    [<c010adc2>] [<c0121e27>] [<c01113b0>] [<c0106dec>]
> Warning (Oops_read): Code line not seen, dumping what data is available
> 
> Trace; c01219d7 <do_anonymous_page+37/90>
> Trace; c012b35f <__alloc_pages+4f/240>
> Trace; c0121a60 <do_no_page+30/b0>
> Trace; c0121b40 <handle_mm_fault+60/d0>
> Trace; c011152e <do_page_fault+17e/4b0>
> Trace; c010adc2 <timer_interrupt+62/110>
> Trace; c0121e27 <sys_brk+b7/f0>
> Trace; c01113b0 <do_page_fault+0/4b0>
> Trace; c0106dec <error_code+34/3c>
> 
> 
> If you need a run on a complete aa1-patch, let me know.

ok, this sounds like a normal oom condition but of course I assume it
isn't. Can you show a `vmstat 1` during the oom kill + some
/proc/meminfo? thanks for the great feedback!

Andrea

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-25 23:46               ` Andrea Arcangeli
@ 2001-09-26  7:29                 ` Christian Bornträger
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Christian Bornträger @ 2001-09-26  7:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrea Arcangeli
  Cc: Marcelo Tosatti, Paul Larson, Linus Torvalds,
	Jacek[iso-8859-2]Pop³awski, lkml

> ok, this sounds like a normal oom condition but of course I assume it
> isn't. Can you show a `vmstat 1` during the oom kill + some
> /proc/meminfo? thanks for the great feedback!

As the VM sometimes killed me some long lasting root processes, like klogd, I 
think it is not the normal oom behaviour........ :-)

vmstat: 

   procs                      memory    swap          io     system         
cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  so    bi    bo   in    cs  us  sy id
 0  0  0      0 457824   8476  28856   0   0   225   140  156   163   4  51 45
 0  0  0      0 457440   8476  28860   0   0     0   280  143   103   1  52 47
 0  0  0      0 457440   8476  28860   0   0     0     0  101    70   1  60 39
 0  0  0      0 457440   8476  28860   0   0     0     0  109    86   1  56 43
 0  0  0      0 457436   8476  28864   0   0     0     0  102    73   1  59 40
 0  0  1      0 457436   8476  28864   0   0     0     0  101    70   1  58 41
 0  0  0      0 457436   8476  28864   0   0     0   236  130    88   0  59 41
 0  0  0      0 457436   8476  28864   0   0     0     0  101    69   1  60 39
 0  0  0      0 457436   8476  28864   0   0     0     0  101    71   1  60 39
 0  0  0      0 457436   8476  28864   0   0     0     0  101    71   0  60 40
 1  0  0      0 168236   8476  28928   0   0    64     0  117    79  11  72 17
 1  2  0      0 496532    236   1660   0   0  2948   252  415   303   5  75 20
 0  0  0      0 495568    408   2364   0   0   708     0  184   206   1  26 73
 0  0  1      0 495532    412   2396   0   0    36     0  105    78   1  59 40
 0  0  0      0 495528    416   2396   0   0     0     0  106    81   1  60 39
 0  0  0      0 495376    560   2396   0   0     0   272  139   103   1  56 43
 0  0  0      0 495376    560   2396   0   0     0     0  104    78   1  60 39

meminfo: (a made a looping bash script with sleep 1 after a cat 
/proc/meminfo. But During the kill there is a 3 second gap)
Mit Sep 26 09:14:58 CEST 2001

        total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
Mem:  526491648 58064896 468426752        0  8679424 29556736
Swap:        0        0        0
MemTotal:       514152 kB
MemFree:        457448 kB
MemShared:           0 kB
Buffers:          8476 kB
Cached:          28864 kB
SwapCached:          0 kB
Active:          19084 kB
Inactive:        18256 kB
HighTotal:           0 kB
HighFree:            0 kB
LowTotal:       514152 kB
LowFree:        457448 kB
SwapTotal:           0 kB
SwapFree:            0 kB
Mit Sep 26 09:14:59 CEST 2001
        total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
Mem:  526491648 162996224 363495424        0  8679424 29622272
Swap:        0        0        0
MemTotal:       514152 kB
MemFree:        354976 kB
MemShared:           0 kB
Buffers:          8476 kB
Cached:          28928 kB
SwapCached:          0 kB
Active:          19112 kB
Inactive:        18292 kB
HighTotal:           0 kB
HighFree:            0 kB
LowTotal:       514152 kB
LowFree:        354976 kB
SwapTotal:           0 kB
SwapFree:            0 kB
Mit Sep 26 09:15:02 CEST 2001
        total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
Mem:  526491648 18993152 507498496        0   409600  2408448
Swap:        0        0        0
MemTotal:       514152 kB
MemFree:        495604 kB
MemShared:           0 kB
Buffers:           400 kB
Cached:           2352 kB
SwapCached:          0 kB
Active:           1388 kB
Inactive:         1364 kB
HighTotal:           0 kB
HighFree:            0 kB
LowTotal:       514152 kB
LowFree:        495604 kB
SwapTotal:           0 kB
SwapFree:            0 kB
Mit Sep 26 09:15:03 CEST 2001
        total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
Mem:  526491648 19054592 507437056        0   421888  2453504
Swap:        0        0        0
MemTotal:       514152 kB
MemFree:        495544 kB
MemShared:           0 kB
Buffers:           412 kB
Cached:           2396 kB
SwapCached:          0 kB
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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-24 11:35       ` Paul Larson
  2001-09-24 15:12         ` Marcelo Tosatti
@ 2001-09-26 13:48         ` Andrea Arcangeli
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2001-09-26 13:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paul Larson; +Cc: Marcelo Tosatti, lkml

On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 11:35:41AM +0000, Paul Larson wrote:
> 
> The patch helped for me, but there are still problems.  I was able to
> run all the way through LTP without it shutting anything down.  When I
> used one of the memory tests to chew up all the ram though, I noticed
> that VM was killing things it shouldn't have.  First thing to get killed
> was cron, then top, then it finally killed mtest01 (the memory test
> mentioned before).

can you reproduce anything wrong with vm-tweaks-2 applied to plain
2.4.10? I posted it to l-k a few minutes ago.

Andrea

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-25 23:05           ` Andrea Arcangeli
@ 2001-09-26 18:15             ` tpepper
  2001-09-26 18:29               ` Andrea Arcangeli
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: tpepper @ 2001-09-26 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrea Arcangeli
  Cc: Marcelo Tosatti, Paul Larson, Linus Torvalds,
	Christian Bornträger, Jacek [iso-8859-2] Pop³awski,
	lkml

On Wed 26 Sep at 01:05:16 +0200 andrea@suse.de done said:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 06:25:10PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > 
> > Does vm-tweaks-1 fixes the current problem we're seeing? 
> 
> it seems no by reading the last email, however I'm not seeing any
> problem, the DEBUG_GFP will tell us where the problem cames from,
> pssobly it's a highmem thing since I never reproduced anything bad here.
> But the point is that the above isn't going to be a right fix anyways.

vm-tweaks-1 fixes things for me.  I've got 512MB ram (kernel not
configured for highmem) and 1 gig of swap.  The workload is heavy file
i/o and has now been running almost 24 hours (about 2 billion I/Os or
a few TB of data I think so far).  Previously all the memory was being
consumed by cache, nothing swapped (as expected if the memory is cached
buffer i/o right?) and I'd get the:
	__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
Now I continue to see the memory consumption / no swap, and no more
error...iow the expected behaviour.

On an unrelated note if I want to backport the async I/O changes in 2.4.10,
are there patches from you I should apply other than:
	2.4.10pre10aa1/40_blkdev-pagecache-17
	2.4.7pre8aa1/41_blkdev-pagecache-5_drop_get_bh_async-1


Tim

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2001-09-26 18:15             ` tpepper
@ 2001-09-26 18:29               ` Andrea Arcangeli
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2001-09-26 18:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tpepper
  Cc: Marcelo Tosatti, Paul Larson, Linus Torvalds,
	Christian Bornträger, Jacek [iso-8859-2] Pop³awski,
	lkml

On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 11:15:09AM -0700, tpepper@vato.org wrote:
> On Wed 26 Sep at 01:05:16 +0200 andrea@suse.de done said:
> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 06:25:10PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > 
> > > Does vm-tweaks-1 fixes the current problem we're seeing? 
> > 
> > it seems no by reading the last email, however I'm not seeing any
> > problem, the DEBUG_GFP will tell us where the problem cames from,
> > pssobly it's a highmem thing since I never reproduced anything bad here.
> > But the point is that the above isn't going to be a right fix anyways.
> 
> vm-tweaks-1 fixes things for me.  I've got 512MB ram (kernel not
> configured for highmem) and 1 gig of swap.  The workload is heavy file
> i/o and has now been running almost 24 hours (about 2 billion I/Os or
> a few TB of data I think so far).  Previously all the memory was being
> consumed by cache, nothing swapped (as expected if the memory is cached
> buffer i/o right?) and I'd get the:

yes, unless the buffered I/O was identified as your very working set but
even in such case the 2.4.10 vm shouldn't swapout too early.

> 	__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
> Now I continue to see the memory consumption / no swap, and no more
> error...iow the expected behaviour.

good. As far I can tell it is the check in swap_out that is making the
difference and fixing the oom problem, it was very intentional indeed.

> On an unrelated note if I want to backport the async I/O changes in 2.4.10,
> are there patches from you I should apply other than:
> 	2.4.10pre10aa1/40_blkdev-pagecache-17
> 	2.4.7pre8aa1/41_blkdev-pagecache-5_drop_get_bh_async-1

both patches are now included in mainline 2.4.10.

thanks,
Andrea

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
  2006-05-31 12:09 Oliver König
@ 2006-06-01 12:19 ` Jes Sorensen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Jes Sorensen @ 2006-06-01 12:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Oliver König; +Cc: linux-kernel

>>>>> "Oliver" == Oliver König <k.oliver@t-online.de> writes:

Oliver> I run Debian 3.1 (Sarge) with Debian-Kernel 2.4.27-3-686-smp
Oliver> on Dell Poweredge 2850 with the following setup/config:

Oliver> Model: Dell Poweredge 2850 CPU: 2x3.0 GHz RAM: 2 GB SWAP: 1 GB
Oliver> Raid 1 with Dell PowerEdge Expandable RAID controller 4 (SCSI)
Oliver> Kernel: 2.4.27-3-686-smp (CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y) Web server:
Oliver> apache2 SQL server: mysql4.1 MTA: exim4

[snip]

Oliver> The server is then so slow tom react that the only way to get
Oliver> rid of the problem is to reset the server.

Oliver> What can we do to fix the problem?

0-order allocations means it cannot get even a single page of free
memory. You also see in the log the the OOM is kicking in. In other
words, totally out of memory.

You have two options, add more swap or add more memory. At the same
time it might be a good idea to try and monitor it to find out which
tasks are chewing away that much memory.

Cheers,
Jes

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* __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
@ 2006-05-31 12:09 Oliver König
  2006-06-01 12:19 ` Jes Sorensen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Oliver König @ 2006-05-31 12:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

I run Debian 3.1 (Sarge) with Debian-Kernel 2.4.27-3-686-smp on Dell 
Poweredge 2850 with the following setup/config:

Model: Dell Poweredge 2850
CPU: 2x3.0 GHz
RAM: 2 GB
SWAP: 1 GB
Raid 1 with Dell PowerEdge Expandable RAID controller 4 (SCSI)
Kernel: 2.4.27-3-686-smp (CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y)
Web server: apache2
SQL server: mysql4.1
MTA: exim4

Occasionally all of a sudden the load average increases from around 1 
to 50-150. Primarily apache2 and also mysql are then consuming most of the CPU 
and memory. I checked the hardware with the Dell 32-bit diagnostic but could 
not find any errors. /var/log/message produces the following or similar 
output:

May 24 09:06:44 server kernel: VM: killing process cron
May 24 09:06:44 server kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed 
(gfp=0x1d2/0)
May 24 09:06:44 server last message repeated 6 times
May 24 09:06:44 server kernel: VM: killing process apache2
May 24 09:06:56 server logger: Hole TAFSYNOP-Wetterdaten...
May 24 09:11:09 server kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed 
(gfp=0x1d2/0)
[..]

The server is then so slow tom react that the only way to get rid of the 
problem is to reset the server.

What can we do to fix the problem?
Thanks.
Oliver

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed.
  2001-09-07 21:00     ` Daniel Phillips
@ 2001-09-12 13:06       ` Martin MOKREJŠ
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Martin MOKREJŠ @ 2001-09-12 13:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Phillips; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote:

> > You can get the patch from Marcelo's post on lkml on Aug 22 under the
> > subject "Re: With Daniel Phillips Patch (was: aic7xxx with 2.4.9 on
> > 7899P)".  Note the correction posted in his next message in the thread.
> > It applies to 2.4.9.  Please try it and see if these failures go away.

Yes, it fixed my problem. I had to aplly also "patch" from someone from
this list, who replied to Daniel, because in original Daniels version of
patch were two typo mistakes.

> > This patch *should* be in the main tree soon.  Some testing by you would
> > help a lot.

I had a look on monday into the -pre7 but it did not look like it contains
this patch.

> Correction, it's in Linus's tree all write, with some changed names.  So...
> conclusion: Marcelo's approach is not airtight.  Or there was an error in
> translation.  Arjan has a patch going in soon to the -ac tree, so stay
> tuned.

I don't know what's Arjan's patch, but Marcelo's patch applied to plain
2.4.9 sources (manually applied) works for 2 days already here.

If you know how to push Marcelo's patch into the -preX version, please do
so. ;-)
-- 
Martin Mokrejs - PGP5.0i key is at http://www.natur.cuni.cz/~mmokrejs
MIPS / Institute for Bioinformatics <http://mips.gsf.de>
GSF - National Research Center for Environment and Health
Ingolstaedter Landstrasse 1, D-85764 Neuherberg, Germany


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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed.
  2001-09-07 13:06   ` Martin MOKREJŠ
  2001-09-07 20:43     ` Daniel Phillips
@ 2001-09-07 21:00     ` Daniel Phillips
  2001-09-12 13:06       ` Martin MOKREJŠ
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Phillips @ 2001-09-07 21:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin MOKREJ?; +Cc: linux-kernel

On September 7, 2001 10:43 pm, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On September 7, 2001 03:06 pm, Martin MOKREJ? wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > 
> > > On September 4, 2001 03:11 pm, Martin MOKREJ? wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >   I'm getting the above error on 2.4.9 kernel with kernel HIGHMEM option
> > > > enabled to 2GB, 2x Intel PentiumIII. The machine has 1GB RAM
> > > > physically. Althougj I've found many report to linux-kernel list during
> > > > past months, not a real solution. Maybe only:
> > > > http://www.alsa-project.org/archive/alsa-devel/msg08629.html
> > > 
> > > Try 2.4.10-pre4.
> > 
> > 
> > Wow, I've just now realized that I get two types of error message:
> > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocatiocation failed (gfp=0x70/1).
> > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x70/1).
> > 
> > We are using LVM and ReiserFS, HIGMEM kernel.
> > 
> > Maybe it helps to track it down. Any ideas?
> 
> printk has a limited amount of space for buffering messages, a ring buffer 
> (sort of) and will start dropping text when the buffer fills up, so as not
> to slow the kernel down and/or interfere with interrupts.  So that is why
> two lines of output got combined above, they are all the same message.
> 
> The gfp=0x70/1 identifies the failure as GFP_NOIO, PF_MEMALLOC, which by
> process of eliminate, comes from alloc_bounce_page.  Marcelo's patch for
> bounce buffer allocation is *not* in 2.4.10-pre4, so we haven't proved
> anything yet.
> 
> You can get the patch from Marcelo's post on lkml on Aug 22 under the
> subject "Re: With Daniel Phillips Patch (was: aic7xxx with 2.4.9 on
> 7899P)".  Note the correction posted in his next message in the thread.
> It applies to 2.4.9.  Please try it and see if these failures go away.
> 
> This patch *should* be in the main tree soon.  Some testing by you would
> help a lot.

Correction, it's in Linus's tree all write, with some changed names.  So...
conclusion: Marcelo's approach is not airtight.  Or there was an error in
translation.  Arjan has a patch going in soon to the -ac tree, so stay
tuned.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread

* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed.
  2001-09-07 13:06   ` Martin MOKREJŠ
@ 2001-09-07 20:43     ` Daniel Phillips
  2001-09-07 21:00     ` Daniel Phillips
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Phillips @ 2001-09-07 20:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin MOKREJ? ; +Cc: linux-kernel

On September 7, 2001 03:06 pm, Martin MOKREJ? wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> 
> > On September 4, 2001 03:11 pm, Martin MOKREJ? wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >   I'm getting the above error on 2.4.9 kernel with kernel HIGHMEM option
> > > enabled to 2GB, 2x Intel PentiumIII. The machine has 1GB RAM
> > > physically. Althougj I've found many report to linux-kernel list during
> > > past months, not a real solution. Maybe only:
> > > http://www.alsa-project.org/archive/alsa-devel/msg08629.html
> > 
> > Try 2.4.10-pre4.
> 
> 
> Wow, I've just now realized that I get two types of error message:
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocatiocation failed (gfp=0x70/1).
> __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x70/1).
> 
> We are using LVM and ReiserFS, HIGMEM kernel.
> 
> Maybe it helps to track it down. Any ideas?

printk has a limited amount of space for buffering messages, a ring buffer 
(sort of) and will start dropping text when the buffer fills up, so as not
to slow the kernel down and/or interfere with interrupts.  So that is why
two lines of output got combined above, they are all the same message.

The gfp=0x70/1 identifies the failure as GFP_NOIO, PF_MEMALLOC, which by
process of eliminate, comes from alloc_bounce_page.  Marcelo's patch for
bounce buffer allocation is *not* in 2.4.10-pre4, so we haven't proved
anything yet.

You can get the patch from Marcelo's post on lkml on Aug 22 under the
subject "Re: With Daniel Phillips Patch (was: aic7xxx with 2.4.9 on
7899P)".  Note the correction posted in his next message in the thread.
It applies to 2.4.9.  Please try it and see if these failures go away.

This patch *should* be in the main tree soon.  Some testing by you would
help a lot.

--
Daniel

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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed.
  2001-09-04 16:12 ` Daniel Phillips
  2001-09-07 12:53   ` Martin MOKREJŠ
@ 2001-09-07 13:06   ` Martin MOKREJŠ
  2001-09-07 20:43     ` Daniel Phillips
  2001-09-07 21:00     ` Daniel Phillips
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Martin MOKREJŠ @ 2001-09-07 13:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Phillips; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote:

> On September 4, 2001 03:11 pm, Martin MOKREJ? wrote:
> > Hi,
> >   I'm getting the above error on 2.4.9 kernel with kernel HIGHMEM option
> > enabled to 2GB, 2x Intel PentiumIII. The machine has 1GB RAM
> > physically. Althougj I've found many report to linux-kernel list during
> > past months, not a real solution. Maybe only:
> > http://www.alsa-project.org/archive/alsa-devel/msg08629.html
> 
> Try 2.4.10-pre4.


Wow, I've just now realized that I get two types of error message:
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocatiocation failed (gfp=0x70/1).
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x70/1).

We are using LVM and ReiserFS, HIGMEM kernel.

Maybe it helps to track it down. Any ideas?
-- 
Martin Mokrejs - PGP5.0i key is at http://www.natur.cuni.cz/~mmokrejs
MIPS / Institute for Bioinformatics <http://mips.gsf.de>
GSF - National Research Center for Environment and Health
Ingolstaedter Landstrasse 1, D-85764 Neuherberg, Germany


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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed.
  2001-09-04 16:12 ` Daniel Phillips
@ 2001-09-07 12:53   ` Martin MOKREJŠ
  2001-09-07 13:06   ` Martin MOKREJŠ
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Martin MOKREJŠ @ 2001-09-07 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Phillips; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Daniel Phillips wrote:

Hi,

> On September 4, 2001 03:11 pm, Martin MOKREJ? wrote:
> > Hi,
> >   I'm getting the above error on 2.4.9 kernel with kernel HIGHMEM option
> > enabled to 2GB, 2x Intel PentiumIII. The machine has 1GB RAM
> > physically. Althougj I've found many report to linux-kernel list during
> > past months, not a real solution. Maybe only:
> > http://www.alsa-project.org/archive/alsa-devel/msg08629.html
> 
> Try 2.4.10-pre4.

Hmm, so after a day of run we got it again:
__alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x70/1).

> > so I think it's another problem in 2.4.9, right?
> 
> Yep.  Most probably bounce buffers, patch by Marcelo already in Linus's
> tree.

So it did not fix it? But the output now has extra "(gfp=0x70/1)" string
appended.

Any ideas?
-- 
Martin Mokrejs - PGP5.0i key is at http://www.natur.cuni.cz/~mmokrejs
MIPS / Institute for Bioinformatics <http://mips.gsf.de>
GSF - National Research Center for Environment and Health
Ingolstaedter Landstrasse 1, D-85764 Neuherberg, Germany


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* Re: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed.
  2001-09-04 13:11 Martin MOKREJŠ
@ 2001-09-04 16:12 ` Daniel Phillips
  2001-09-07 12:53   ` Martin MOKREJŠ
  2001-09-07 13:06   ` Martin MOKREJŠ
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 37+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Phillips @ 2001-09-04 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin MOKREJ? , linux-kernel

On September 4, 2001 03:11 pm, Martin MOKREJ? wrote:
> Hi,
>   I'm getting the above error on 2.4.9 kernel with kernel HIGHMEM option
> enabled to 2GB, 2x Intel PentiumIII. The machine has 1GB RAM
> physically. Althougj I've found many report to linux-kernel list during
> past months, not a real solution. Maybe only:
> http://www.alsa-project.org/archive/alsa-devel/msg08629.html

Try 2.4.10-pre4.

>   I hope it's not related to memory chunks allocated twice,

It's not

> so I think it's another problem in 2.4.9, right?

Yep.  Most probably bounce buffers, patch by Marcelo already in Linus's
tree.

--
Daniel

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 37+ messages in thread

* __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed.
@ 2001-09-04 13:11 Martin MOKREJŠ
  2001-09-04 16:12 ` Daniel Phillips
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 37+ messages in thread
From: Martin MOKREJŠ @ 2001-09-04 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Hi,
  I'm getting the above error on 2.4.9 kernel with kernel HIGHMEM option
enabled to 2GB, 2x Intel PentiumIII. The machine has 1GB RAM
physically. Althougj I've found many report to linux-kernel list during
past months, not a real solution. Maybe only:
http://www.alsa-project.org/archive/alsa-devel/msg08629.html

  I hope it's not related to memory chunks allocated twice, so I think
it's another problem in 2.4.9, right?

Linux version 2.4.9 (user@host) (gcc version 2.95.2 20000220 (Debian GNU/Linux)) #4 SMP Thu Aug 30 15:10:26 CEST 2001
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009f400 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000000000009f400 - 000000000009f800 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000000e0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000040000000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec02000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000fff80000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
128MB HIGHMEM available.
Scan SMP from c0000000 for 1024 bytes.
Scan SMP from c009fc00 for 1024 bytes.
Scan SMP from c00f0000 for 65536 bytes.
found SMP MP-table at 000ff780
hm, page 000ff000 reserved twice.
hm, page 00100000 reserved twice.
hm, page 000f0000 reserved twice.
hm, page 000f1000 reserved twice.
On node 0 totalpages: 262144
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 225280 pages.
zone(2): 32768 pages.

shell$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       1028480     992840      35640          0      20832     821524
-/+ buffers/cache:     150484     877996
Swap:      2097136     100868    1996268


  The machine is running apache 1.3.20 and mysql-3.23.41 only, and is
not loaded yet. :( Any ideas? Thanks.
-- 
Martin Mokrejs - PGP5.0i key is at http://www.natur.cuni.cz/~mmokrejs
MIPS / Institute for Bioinformatics <http://mips.gsf.de>
GSF - National Research Center for Environment and Health
Ingolstaedter Landstrasse 1, D-85764 Neuherberg, Germany



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2001-09-24 12:38     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-24 11:35       ` Paul Larson
2001-09-24 15:12         ` Marcelo Tosatti
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2001-09-26 13:48         ` Andrea Arcangeli
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