Past CREDITS files

Past CREDITS files

[Juha Siltala]

Hi,

I would like to examine the CREDITS files of all/most kernels released over
time. How could I get my hands on these? I want to study the accumulation
of contributors over the years. This is part of my masters thesis project.

BTW, when was the current twofold stable/devel numbering scheme started?

Thanks,
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Re: Past CREDITS files

[Brian Gerst]

Juha Siltala wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to examine the CREDITS files of all/most kernels released over
> time. How could I get my hands on these? I want to study the accumulation
> of contributors over the years. This is part of my masters thesis project.

Grab all the patches from kernel.org and look for the diffs to the
CREDITS file.

> BTW, when was the current twofold stable/devel numbering scheme started?

With the 1.0/1.1 kernels.

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Re: Past CREDITS files

[David Weinehall]

On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 04:22:17PM +0300, Juha Siltala wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to examine the CREDITS files of all/most kernels released over
> time. How could I get my hands on these? I want to study the accumulation
> of contributors over the years. This is part of my masters thesis project.
> 
> BTW, when was the current twofold stable/devel numbering scheme started?

I don't think this will be very rewarding, as a lot of very important
contributors aren't listed in this file (if I remember correctly,
Alexander Viro, the guru of VFS-design, is one example, all the people
behind my all-time favourite project, the Standford-checker, is another
example), hence this file is pretty useless.


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Re: Past CREDITS files

[Robert Love]

On Wed, 2001-10-03 at 21:47, David Weinehall wrote:
> > I would like to examine the CREDITS files of all/most kernels released over
> > time. How could I get my hands on these? I want to study the accumulation
> > of contributors over the years. This is part of my masters thesis project.
> > 
> > BTW, when was the current twofold stable/devel numbering scheme started?
> 
> I don't think this will be very rewarding, as a lot of very important
> contributors aren't listed in this file (if I remember correctly,
> Alexander Viro, the guru of VFS-design, is one example, all the people
> behind my all-time favourite project, the Standford-checker, is another
> example), hence this file is pretty useless.

Or MY favorite hacker, Ingo Molnar :)

Anyhow, the two-fold stable/devel system has been in effect since at
least 1.0, when we had 1.1->1.2 (then 1.3->2.0, 2.1->2.2, etc.) 
Hopefully we can continue this tradition and have 2.5 start sometime!

	Robert Love

Re: Past CREDITS files

[Juha Siltala]

On Thu, 04 Oct 2001 03:47:34 +0200
David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 04:22:17PM +0300, Juha Siltala wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I would like to examine the CREDITS files of all/most kernels released
> over
> > time. How could I get my hands on these? I want to study the
> accumulation
> > of contributors over the years. This is part of my masters thesis
> project.
> > 
> > BTW, when was the current twofold stable/devel numbering scheme
> started?
> 
> I don't think this will be very rewarding, as a lot of very important
> contributors aren't listed in this file (if I remember correctly,
> Alexander Viro, the guru of VFS-design, is one example, all the people
> behind my all-time favourite project, the Standford-checker, is another
> example), hence this file is pretty useless.
> 

Not to worry. It's not like my thesis is built around this data. It's just
to show that this is a collaborative project and that it's gotten bigger
over time. I'm not even studying Linux specifically - this is about the
Hacker Ethic and free software in the Castellian big picture of the Network
Society.
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Re: Past CREDITS files

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, David Weinehall wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 04:22:17PM +0300, Juha Siltala wrote:
> > I would like to examine the CREDITS files of all/most kernels released over
> > time. How could I get my hands on these? I want to study the accumulation
> > of contributors over the years. This is part of my masters thesis project.
> > 
> > BTW, when was the current twofold stable/devel numbering scheme started?
> 
> I don't think this will be very rewarding, as a lot of very important
> contributors aren't listed in this file (if I remember correctly,
> Alexander Viro, the guru of VFS-design, is one example, all the people
> behind my all-time favourite project, the Standford-checker, is another
> example), hence this file is pretty useless.

So it would be better to search for names in the full sources. I admit that's
not to simple. Email adresses would be simpler but suffers from the same
problem as the CREDITS file.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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Re: Past CREDITS files

[Henning P. Schmiedehausen]

Robert Love <rml@tech9.net> writes:

>Anyhow, the two-fold stable/devel system has been in effect since at
>least 1.0, when we had 1.1->1.2 (then 1.3->2.0, 2.1->2.2, etc.) 
>Hopefully we can continue this tradition and have 2.5 start sometime!

Personally, I'd consider 2.4 -> 2.9 -> 3.0 

	Regards
		Henning


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Stanford checker [was Re: Past CREDITS files]

[Ville Herva]

David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se> wrote:
> 
> (...) my all-time favourite project, the Standford-checker (...)

Speaking of which, has anybody planned to run it on 2.2 (or 2.0 ;) ) code
base? I mean, while 2.2 is not that interesting development wise, it is
still the more stable series and running checker on it might reveal even
security bugs...


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Re: Past CREDITS files

[Horst von Brand]

"Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <mailgate@hometree.net> said:
> Robert Love <rml@tech9.net> writes:
> 
> >Anyhow, the two-fold stable/devel system has been in effect since at
> >least 1.0, when we had 1.1->1.2 (then 1.3->2.0, 2.1->2.2, etc.) 
> >Hopefully we can continue this tradition and have 2.5 start sometime!
> 
> Personally, I'd consider 2.4 -> 2.9 -> 3.0 

What are the earthshattering changes you foresee that would suggest going
for 3.0?
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Re: Stanford checker [was Re: Past CREDITS files]

[David Weinehall]

On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 12:35:14PM +0300, Ville Herva wrote:
> David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se> wrote:
> > 
> > (...) my all-time favourite project, the Standford-checker (...)
> 
> Speaking of which, has anybody planned to run it on 2.2 (or 2.0 ;) ) code
> base? I mean, while 2.2 is not that interesting development wise, it is
> still the more stable series and running checker on it might reveal even
> security bugs...

I don't know, but I for one would be enormously grateful if anyone
ran it on the v2.0.39 tree.


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Re: Past CREDITS files

[Alan Cox]

> I would like to examine the CREDITS files of all/most kernels released over
> time. How could I get my hands on these? I want to study the accumulation
> of contributors over the years. This is part of my masters thesis project.

Download all the kernels. Be aware they are
	-	Wildly inaccurate
	-	Started becoming accurate later on
	-	Were subject to significant external effects (the RH IPO
		caused people to massively update/send in new CREDIT entries)
	

They still represent a tiny subset of contributors. Especially the thousands
who send in the odd small patch

> BTW, when was the current twofold stable/devel numbering scheme started?

See my historical mail archive. 
http://www.linux.org.uk/Old-LK/Old-linux-kernel

Its in there somewhere 8)