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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Neil Conway <nconway.list@ukaea.org.uk>,
	Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 61
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 18:26:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020514162641.GO17509@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E177dYp-00083c-00@the-village.bc.nu> <3CE11F90.5070701@evision-ventures.com>

On Tue, May 14 2002, Martin Dalecki wrote:
> Yes thinking about it longer and longer I tend to the same conclusion,
> that we just shouldn't have per device queue but per channel queues instead.

Right, I see that as the only right way to get the right synchronization
too.

> The only problem here is the fact that some device properties
> are attached to the queue right now. Like for example sector size and 
> friends.

Hmm yes, hardsect_size comes to mind. It will just have to be 'lowest
common denominator' for a while I suppose.

> I didn't have a too deep look in to the generic blk layer. But I would
> rather expect that since the lower layers are allowed to pass
> an spin lock up to the queue intialization, sharing a spin lock
> between two request queues should just serialize them with respect to
> each other. And this is precisely what 63 does.

I think you are mixing up two very different serialization issues. A
shared queue lock will indeed protect however much you want, but only at
the queue level. It will _not_ provide synchronization for hardware
access in any sane way, like a shared queue between two devices will.

You could alternatively move requests to an internal queue of your own
width, that would synchronize drive operations at any level you want
(you set the rules). The block layer can still sanely handle the locking
for you, the scope of that lock will just be a bit wider.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-05-14 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-14  9:49 [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 61 Neil Conway
2002-05-14  8:52 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 10:12   ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14  9:30     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 11:10       ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 10:21         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 11:38           ` Russell King
2002-05-14 10:49             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 12:10             ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 11:11               ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 12:47                 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 12:30                   ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15 14:43                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-14 12:00               ` Russell King
2002-05-14 11:03                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 13:03               ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 13:27                 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-05-14 14:45                 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 14:30                   ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 16:20                     ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 16:32                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-14 16:47                         ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 16:51                           ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-15 11:37                             ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 22:51                           ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-14 16:26                     ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2002-05-14 19:34                     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-15  6:16                       ` Jens Axboe
2002-05-15  8:32                         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-05-15  9:42                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15  9:32                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15 11:44                         ` Neil Conway
2002-05-15 11:02                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15 13:10                             ` Alan Cox
2002-05-15 13:34                               ` Neil Conway
2002-05-15 13:04                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-15 14:08                               ` benh
2002-05-15 16:40                         ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-15 11:55                           ` Neil Conway
2002-05-17  7:07                             ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-17 11:06                               ` Neil Conway
2002-05-17 10:12                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-14 16:03                   ` Neil Conway
2002-05-14 16:46                     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-14 12:52       ` Daniela Engert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-06  3:53 Linux-2.5.14 Linus Torvalds
2002-05-13  9:48 ` [PATCH] 2.5.15 IDE 61 Martin Dalecki

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