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From: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove LVM from 2.5 (resend)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:54:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021002145434.GA1202@marowsky-bree.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1033565669.23682.10.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>

On 2002-10-02T14:34:29,
   Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> said:

> > completely bypassing its core infrastructure (since you're no longer
> > just doing simple block remapping at that point), and once you add all
> > that stuff, it's likely to become much more complex.
> Last time I checked we already had a perfectly good md driver for the
> raid5 handling

Not entirely. I gather that EVMS AIX RAID code has some very nice properties
like journaling (which of course cannot be mapped directly onto md), greatly
speeding up rebuilds after a crash.

The MD code will also show some very nice failure scenarios in a clustered
software-RAID scenario, which the EVMS code could (from what I know) address.
(Whether that's a sensible scenario or not is left as an exercise to the
reader...)

I'll also admit that the "EVMS on top of DM and rip out everything else" was
slightly over the top on purpose, though I'd be somewhat annoyed if we had
EVMS (with its compatibility modules) and the modules it is supposed to be
compatible with (ie, md) at the same time, with duplicated code. That would
suck. Unless of course it was indeed meant as a transition period.

I'd be fine if someone said "We'll have EVMS, md and DM in 2.6 and then sort
the mess in 2.7.", I'm just curious what the goal is. Right now, there's no
working code in 2.5 nor a vision, which is obviously a major bug.


Sincerely,
    Lars Marowsky-Brée <lmb@suse.de>

-- 
Principal Squirrel
Research and Development, SuSE Linux AG
 
``Immortality is an adequate definition of high availability for me.''
	--- Gregory F. Pfister


  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-02 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-01 14:06 [PATCH] Remove LVM from 2.5 (resend) Joe Thornber
2002-10-01 14:15 ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-01 14:52   ` venom
2002-10-01 15:48     ` Dave Jones
2002-10-01 16:06       ` Jens Axboe
2002-10-01 16:35         ` Joe Thornber
2002-10-01 16:41           ` Jens Axboe
2002-10-01 23:19             ` venom
2002-10-01 18:42       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-10-02  1:00         ` Alan Cox
2002-10-02  4:24           ` Theodore Ts'o
2002-10-02 13:34             ` Alan Cox
2002-10-02 14:54               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree [this message]
2002-10-02 17:09                 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-02 22:29                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-10-02 22:46                     ` Alan Cox
2002-10-02 23:14                       ` Andreas Dilger
2002-10-02 23:22                         ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-03  5:50                           ` Michael Clark
2002-10-03 12:38                             ` Alan Cox
2002-10-03 14:09                               ` Michael Clark
2002-10-03 15:07                                 ` Shawn
2002-10-03 15:22                                   ` Michael Clark
2002-10-06  5:05                                     ` GrandMasterLee
2002-10-01 19:12       ` Matthias Andree
2002-10-01 23:25         ` venom
2002-10-01 17:09   ` Status of InterMezzo in 2.5 Andreas Dilger
2002-10-01 14:40 ` [PATCH] Remove LVM from 2.5 (resend) Jens Axboe
2002-10-01 14:54   ` Joe Thornber

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