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From: Erich Focht <efocht@ess.nec.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
	Michael Hohnbaum <hohnbaum@us.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Theurer <habanero@us.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lse-tech <lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [patch] sched-2.5.59-A2
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:35:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200301171535.21226.efocht@ess.nec.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0301170921430.3723-100000@localhost.localdomain>

Hi Ingo,

I tried your patch on the small NEC TX7 I can access easilly (8
Itanium2 CPUs on 4 nodes). I actually used your patch on top of the
2.5.52-ia64 kernel, but that shouldn't matter.

I like the cleanup of the topology.h. Also the renaming to
prev_cpu_load. There was a mistake (I think) in the call to
load_balance() in the idle path, guess you wanted to have:
+           load_balance(this_rq, 1, __node_to_cpu_mask(this_node));
instead of
+           load_balance(this_rq, 1, this_cpumask);
otherwise you won't load balance at all for idle cpus.

Here are the results:

kernbench (average of 5 kernel compiles) (standard error in brackets)
---------
           Elapsed       UserTime      SysTime
orig       134.43(1.79)  944.79(0.43)  21.41(0.28)
ingo       136.74(1.58)  951.55(0.73)  21.16(0.32)
ingofix    135.22(0.59)  952.17(0.78)  21.16(0.19)


hackbench (chat benchmark alike) (elapsed time for N groups of 20
---------           senders & receivers, stats from 10 measurements)

          N=10        N=25        N=50        N=100
orig      0.77(0.03)  1.91(0.06)  3.77(0.06)  7.78(0.21)
ingo      1.70(0.35)  3.11(0.47)  4.85(0.55)  8.80(0.98)
ingofix   1.16(0.14)  2.67(0.53)  5.05(0.26)  9.99(0.13)


numabench (N memory intensive tasks running in parallel, disturbed for
---------  a short time by a "hackbench 10" call)


numa_test N=4   ElapsedTime  TotalUserTime  TotalSysTime
orig:           26.13(2.54)  86.10(4.47)    0.09(0.01)
ingo:           27.60(2.16)  88.06(4.58)    0.11(0.01)
ingofix:        25.51(3.05)  83.55(2.78)    0.10(0.01)

numa_test N=8   ElapsedTime  TotalUserTime  TotalSysTime
orig:           24.81(2.71)  164.94(4.82)   0.17(0.01)
ingo:           27.38(3.01)  170.06(5.60)   0.30(0.03)
ingofix:        29.08(2.79)  172.10(4.48)   0.32(0.03)

numa_test N=16  ElapsedTime  TotalUserTime  TotalSysTime
orig:           45.19(3.42)  332.07(5.89)   0.32(0.01)
ingo:           50.18(0.38)  359.46(9.31)   0.46(0.04)
ingofix:        50.30(0.42)  357.38(9.12)   0.46(0.01)

numa_test N=32  ElapsedTime  TotalUserTime  TotalSysTime
orig:           86.84(1.83)  671.99(9.98)   0.65(0.02)
ingo:           93.44(2.13)  704.90(16.91)  0.82(0.06)
ingofix:        93.92(1.28)  727.58(9.26)   0.77(0.03)


>From these results I would prefer to either leave the numa scheduler
as it is or to introduce an IDLE_NODEBALANCE_TICK and a
BUSY_NODEBALANCE_TICK instead of just having one NODE_REBALANCE_TICK
which balances very rarely. In that case it would make sense to keep
the cpus_to_balance() function.

Best regards,
Erich


On Friday 17 January 2003 09:47, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> Martin, Erich,
>
> could you give the attached patch a go, it implements my
> cleanup/reorganization suggestions ontop of 2.5.59:
>
>  - decouple the 'slow' rebalancer from the 'fast' rebalancer and attach it
>    to the scheduler tick. Remove rq->nr_balanced.
>
>  - do idle-rebalancing every 1 msec, intra-node rebalancing every 200
>    msecs and inter-node rebalancing every 400 msecs.
>
>  - move the tick-based rebalancing logic into rebalance_tick(), it looks
>    more organized this way and we have all related code in one spot.
>
>  - clean up the topology.h include file structure. Since generic kernel
>    code uses all the defines already, there's no reason to keep them in
>    asm-generic.h. I've created a linux/topology.h file that includes
>    asm/topology.h and takes care of the default and generic definitions.
>    Moved over a generic topology definition from mmzone.h.
>
>  - renamed rq->prev_nr_running[] to rq->prev_cpu_load[] - this further
>    unifies the SMP and NUMA balancers and is more in line with the
>    prev_node_load name.
>
> If performance drops due to this patch then the benchmarking goal would be
> to tune the following frequencies:
>
>  #define IDLE_REBALANCE_TICK (HZ/1000 ?: 1)
>  #define BUSY_REBALANCE_TICK (HZ/5 ?: 1)
>  #define NODE_REBALANCE_TICK (BUSY_REBALANCE_TICK * 2)
>
> In theory NODE_REBALANCE_TICK could be defined by the NUMA platform,
> although in the past such per-platform scheduler tunings used to end
> 'orphaned' after some time. 400 msecs is pretty conservative at the
> moment, it could be made more frequent if benchmark results support it.
>
> the patch compiles and boots on UP and SMP, it compiles on x86-NUMA.
>
> 	Ingo


  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-17 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-09 23:54 Minature NUMA scheduler Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-10  5:36 ` [Lse-tech] " Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-10 16:34   ` Erich Focht
2003-01-10 16:57     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-12 23:35       ` Erich Focht
2003-01-12 23:55       ` NUMA scheduler 2nd approach Erich Focht
2003-01-13  8:02         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-13 11:32           ` Erich Focht
2003-01-13 15:26             ` [Lse-tech] " Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-13 15:46               ` Erich Focht
2003-01-13 19:03             ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-14  1:23         ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-14  4:45           ` [Lse-tech] " Andrew Theurer
2003-01-14  4:56             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-14 11:14               ` Erich Focht
2003-01-14 15:55                 ` [PATCH 2.5.58] new NUMA scheduler Erich Focht
2003-01-14 16:07                   ` [Lse-tech] " Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-14 16:23                   ` [PATCH 2.5.58] new NUMA scheduler: fix Erich Focht
2003-01-14 16:43                     ` Erich Focht
2003-01-14 19:02                       ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-14 21:56                         ` [Lse-tech] " Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-15 15:10                         ` Erich Focht
2003-01-16  0:14                           ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-16  6:05                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-16 16:47                             ` Erich Focht
2003-01-16 18:07                               ` Robert Love
2003-01-16 18:48                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-16 19:07                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-16 18:59                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-16 19:10                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-16 19:44                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-16 19:43                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-16 20:19                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-16 20:29                                           ` [Lse-tech] " Rick Lindsley
2003-01-16 23:31                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-17  7:23                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-17  8:47                                             ` [patch] sched-2.5.59-A2 Ingo Molnar
2003-01-17 14:35                                               ` Erich Focht [this message]
2003-01-17 15:11                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-17 15:30                                                   ` Erich Focht
2003-01-17 16:58                                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-18 20:54                                                     ` NUMA sched -> pooling scheduler (inc HT) Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-18 21:34                                                       ` [Lse-tech] " Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-19  0:13                                                         ` Andrew Theurer
2003-01-17 18:19                                                   ` [patch] sched-2.5.59-A2 Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-18  7:08                                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-18  8:12                                                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-18  8:16                                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-19  4:22                                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-17 17:21                                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-17 17:23                                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-17 18:11                                                 ` Erich Focht
2003-01-17 19:04                                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-17 19:26                                                     ` [Lse-tech] " Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-18  0:13                                                       ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-18 13:31                                                         ` [patch] tunable rebalance rates for sched-2.5.59-B0 Erich Focht
2003-01-18 23:09                                                         ` [patch] sched-2.5.59-A2 Erich Focht
2003-01-20  9:28                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-20 12:07                                                             ` Erich Focht
2003-01-20 16:56                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-20 17:04                                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-20 17:10                                                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-20 17:24                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-20 19:13                                                                       ` Andrew Theurer
2003-01-20 19:33                                                                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-20 19:52                                                                           ` Andrew Theurer
2003-01-20 19:52                                                                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-20 21:18                                                                               ` [patch] HT scheduler, sched-2.5.59-D7 Ingo Molnar
2003-01-20 22:28                                                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-21  1:11                                                                                   ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-22  3:15                                                                                 ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-22 16:41                                                                                   ` Andrew Theurer
2003-01-22 16:17                                                                                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-22 16:20                                                                                       ` Andrew Theurer
2003-01-22 16:35                                                                                     ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-02-03 18:23                                                                                 ` [patch] HT scheduler, sched-2.5.59-E2 Ingo Molnar
2003-02-03 20:47                                                                                   ` Robert Love
2003-02-04  9:31                                                                                   ` Erich Focht
2003-01-20 17:04                                                                 ` [patch] sched-2.5.59-A2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-21 17:44                                                                 ` Erich Focht
2003-01-20 16:23                                                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-20 16:59                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-17 23:09                                                     ` Matthew Dobson
2003-01-16 23:45                                           ` [PATCH 2.5.58] new NUMA scheduler: fix Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-17 11:10                                           ` Erich Focht
2003-01-17 14:07                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-16 19:44                                       ` John Bradford
2003-01-14 16:51                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-15  0:05                     ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-15  7:47                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-14  5:50             ` [Lse-tech] Re: NUMA scheduler 2nd approach Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-14 16:52               ` Andrew Theurer
2003-01-14 15:13                 ` Erich Focht
2003-01-14 10:56           ` Erich Focht
2003-01-11 14:43     ` [Lse-tech] Minature NUMA scheduler Bill Davidsen
2003-01-12 23:24       ` Erich Focht

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