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From: Erich Focht <efocht@ess.nec.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Michael Hohnbaum <hohnbaum@us.ibm.com>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Matthew Dobson <colpatch@us.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>, Andrew Theurer <habanero@us.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lse-tech <lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [patch] sched-2.5.59-A2
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:07:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200301201307.55515.efocht@ess.nec.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0301201022540.2585-100000@localhost.localdomain>

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On Monday 20 January 2003 10:28, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Erich Focht wrote:
> > The results:
> > - kernbench UserTime is best for the 2.5.59 scheduler (623s). IngoB0
> >   best value 627.33s for idle=20ms, busy=2000ms.
> > - hackbench: 2.5.59 scheduler is significantly better for all
> >   measurements.
> >
> > I suppose this comes from the fact that the 2.5.59 version has the
> > chance to load_balance across nodes when a cpu goes idle. No idea what
> > other reason it could be... Maybe anybody else?
>
> this shows that agressive idle-rebalancing is the most important factor. I
> think this means that the unification of the balancing code should go into
> the other direction: ie. applying the ->nr_balanced logic to the SMP
> balancer as well.

Could you please explain your idea? As far as I understand, the SMP
balancer (pre-NUMA) tries a global rebalance at each call. Maybe you
mean something different...

> kernelbench is the kind of benchmark that is most sensitive to over-eager
> global balancing, and since the 2.5.59 ->nr_balanced logic produced the
> best results, it clearly shows it's not over-eager. hackbench is one that
> is quite sensitive to under-balancing. Ie. trying to maximize both will
> lead us to a good balance.

Yes! Actually the currently implemented nr_balanced logic is pretty
dumb: the counter reaches the cross-node balance threshold after a
certain number of calls to intra-node lb, no matter whether these were
successfull or not. I'd like to try incrementing the counter only on
unsuccessfull load balances, this would give a clear priority to
intra-node balancing and a clear and controllable delay for cross-node
balancing. A tiny patch for this (for 2.5.59) is attached. As the name
nr_balanced would be misleading for this kind of usage, I renamed it
to nr_lb_failed.

Regards,
Erich

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diff -urNp 2.5.59-topo/kernel/sched.c 2.5.59-topo-succ/kernel/sched.c
--- 2.5.59-topo/kernel/sched.c	2003-01-17 03:22:29.000000000 +0100
+++ 2.5.59-topo-succ/kernel/sched.c	2003-01-20 13:06:04.000000000 +0100
@@ -156,7 +156,7 @@ struct runqueue {
 	int prev_nr_running[NR_CPUS];
 #ifdef CONFIG_NUMA
 	atomic_t *node_nr_running;
-	unsigned int nr_balanced;
+	unsigned int nr_lb_failed;
 	int prev_node_load[MAX_NUMNODES];
 #endif
 	task_t *migration_thread;
@@ -770,11 +770,11 @@ static inline unsigned long cpus_to_bala
 	int this_node = __cpu_to_node(this_cpu);
 	/*
 	 * Avoid rebalancing between nodes too often.
-	 * We rebalance globally once every NODE_BALANCE_RATE load balances.
+	 * We rebalance globally after NODE_BALANCE_RATE failed load balances.
 	 */
-	if (++(this_rq->nr_balanced) == NODE_BALANCE_RATE) {
+	if (this_rq->nr_lb_failed == NODE_BALANCE_RATE) {
 		int node = find_busiest_node(this_node);
-		this_rq->nr_balanced = 0;
+		this_rq->nr_lb_failed = 0;
 		if (node >= 0)
 			return (__node_to_cpu_mask(node) | (1UL << this_cpu));
 	}
@@ -892,6 +892,10 @@ static inline runqueue_t *find_busiest_q
 		busiest = NULL;
 	}
 out:
+#ifdef CONFIG_NUMA
+	if (!busiest)
+		this_rq->nr_lb_failed++;
+#endif
 	return busiest;
 }
 

  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-20 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-09 23:54 Minature NUMA scheduler Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-10  5:36 ` [Lse-tech] " Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-10 16:34   ` Erich Focht
2003-01-10 16:57     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-12 23:35       ` Erich Focht
2003-01-12 23:55       ` NUMA scheduler 2nd approach Erich Focht
2003-01-13  8:02         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-13 11:32           ` Erich Focht
2003-01-13 15:26             ` [Lse-tech] " Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-13 15:46               ` Erich Focht
2003-01-13 19:03             ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-14  1:23         ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-14  4:45           ` [Lse-tech] " Andrew Theurer
2003-01-14  4:56             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-14 11:14               ` Erich Focht
2003-01-14 15:55                 ` [PATCH 2.5.58] new NUMA scheduler Erich Focht
2003-01-14 16:07                   ` [Lse-tech] " Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-14 16:23                   ` [PATCH 2.5.58] new NUMA scheduler: fix Erich Focht
2003-01-14 16:43                     ` Erich Focht
2003-01-14 19:02                       ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-14 21:56                         ` [Lse-tech] " Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-15 15:10                         ` Erich Focht
2003-01-16  0:14                           ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-16  6:05                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-16 16:47                             ` Erich Focht
2003-01-16 18:07                               ` Robert Love
2003-01-16 18:48                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-16 19:07                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-16 18:59                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-16 19:10                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-16 19:44                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-16 19:43                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-16 20:19                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-16 20:29                                           ` [Lse-tech] " Rick Lindsley
2003-01-16 23:31                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-17  7:23                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-17  8:47                                             ` [patch] sched-2.5.59-A2 Ingo Molnar
2003-01-17 14:35                                               ` Erich Focht
2003-01-17 15:11                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-17 15:30                                                   ` Erich Focht
2003-01-17 16:58                                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-18 20:54                                                     ` NUMA sched -> pooling scheduler (inc HT) Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-18 21:34                                                       ` [Lse-tech] " Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-19  0:13                                                         ` Andrew Theurer
2003-01-17 18:19                                                   ` [patch] sched-2.5.59-A2 Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-18  7:08                                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-18  8:12                                                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-18  8:16                                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-19  4:22                                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-17 17:21                                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-17 17:23                                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-17 18:11                                                 ` Erich Focht
2003-01-17 19:04                                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-17 19:26                                                     ` [Lse-tech] " Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-18  0:13                                                       ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-18 13:31                                                         ` [patch] tunable rebalance rates for sched-2.5.59-B0 Erich Focht
2003-01-18 23:09                                                         ` [patch] sched-2.5.59-A2 Erich Focht
2003-01-20  9:28                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-20 12:07                                                             ` Erich Focht [this message]
2003-01-20 16:56                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-20 17:04                                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-20 17:10                                                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-20 17:24                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-20 19:13                                                                       ` Andrew Theurer
2003-01-20 19:33                                                                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-20 19:52                                                                           ` Andrew Theurer
2003-01-20 19:52                                                                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-20 21:18                                                                               ` [patch] HT scheduler, sched-2.5.59-D7 Ingo Molnar
2003-01-20 22:28                                                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-01-21  1:11                                                                                   ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-22  3:15                                                                                 ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-22 16:41                                                                                   ` Andrew Theurer
2003-01-22 16:17                                                                                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-22 16:20                                                                                       ` Andrew Theurer
2003-01-22 16:35                                                                                     ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-02-03 18:23                                                                                 ` [patch] HT scheduler, sched-2.5.59-E2 Ingo Molnar
2003-02-03 20:47                                                                                   ` Robert Love
2003-02-04  9:31                                                                                   ` Erich Focht
2003-01-20 17:04                                                                 ` [patch] sched-2.5.59-A2 Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-21 17:44                                                                 ` Erich Focht
2003-01-20 16:23                                                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-20 16:59                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-17 23:09                                                     ` Matthew Dobson
2003-01-16 23:45                                           ` [PATCH 2.5.58] new NUMA scheduler: fix Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-17 11:10                                           ` Erich Focht
2003-01-17 14:07                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-01-16 19:44                                       ` John Bradford
2003-01-14 16:51                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-15  0:05                     ` Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-15  7:47                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-14  5:50             ` [Lse-tech] Re: NUMA scheduler 2nd approach Michael Hohnbaum
2003-01-14 16:52               ` Andrew Theurer
2003-01-14 15:13                 ` Erich Focht
2003-01-14 10:56           ` Erich Focht
2003-01-11 14:43     ` [Lse-tech] Minature NUMA scheduler Bill Davidsen
2003-01-12 23:24       ` Erich Focht

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