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From: Oliver Xymoron <oxymoron@waste.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: jeff millar <wa1hco@adelphia.net>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Monta Vista software license terms
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:42:45 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030210174245.GI28107@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1044883477.418.11.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>

On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 01:24:38PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 07:18, Oliver Xymoron wrote:
> > >     1. Can MontaVista add separate terms to their purchase agreement that
> > > forbid/discourage/impede publishing the source?
> > 
> > Can they or do they? I know that people I've worked with have signed
> > broad NDAs on code they've gotten from MontaVista, though such
> > agreements almost certainly qualify as 'additional restrictions'
> > against the GPL.
> 
> The GPL doesn't permit such restrictions (its an additional restriction)
> but as I understand it the MontaVista packages include a lot more than
> just free software, so the GPL rights probably only apply to the GPL
> packages in their setup

I certainly agree, but the problem is the NDA puts the shoe on the
other foot and now it's the customer that has to consult a lawyer or
risk a nuisance suit before proceeding. So while it may not forbid, it
certainly discourages and impedes. Let me point out that I never saw
the NDA in question but said coworker was sufficiently intimidated by
it that he was unwilling to give me a copy of the kernel and gcc
sources because of it.

Not that it ended up mattering - I managed to get stock Debian running
on the board with all the board support I needed in a matter of a
couple of days.

-- 
 "Love the dolphins," she advised him. "Write by W.A.S.T.E.." 

  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-10 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-05 11:58 Monta Vista software license terms Nilmoni Deb
2003-02-05 17:04 ` Disconnect
2003-02-05 17:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 17:10 ` Robert Love
2003-02-05 17:18   ` Nilmoni Deb
2003-02-05 17:23     ` Robert Love
2003-02-05 17:36       ` andrea.glorioso
2003-02-05 17:57         ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-05 18:13           ` andrea.glorioso
2003-02-05 18:15           ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 18:24             ` Steven Dake
2003-02-05 18:28               ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 19:41               ` Alan Cox
2003-02-05 18:47                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 18:52                   ` Steven Dake
2003-02-05 18:31             ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-05 18:34               ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 18:41                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-05 18:42                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 19:00                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-05 18:51                 ` Ben Greear
2003-02-05 18:54             ` Dana Lacoste
2003-02-05 18:56               ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 19:25                 ` Hugo Mills
2003-02-06  8:08             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-02-05 18:44       ` Nilmoni Deb
2003-02-05 17:16 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-05 17:38   ` andrea.glorioso
2003-02-05 17:54     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 18:04       ` andrea.glorioso
2003-02-06  1:11       ` jeff millar
2003-02-06  2:19         ` James Buchanan
2003-02-06  9:12         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-02-06 14:37           ` Alan Cox
2003-02-06 18:41             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-02-06 19:14               ` Charles Cazabon
2003-02-06 20:36               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-02-10  7:18         ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-02-10  7:24           ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-10 13:24           ` Alan Cox
2003-02-10 17:42             ` Oliver Xymoron [this message]
2003-02-10 21:33               ` David Schwartz
2003-02-11  7:42                 ` Horst von Brand
2003-02-11 19:39                   ` David Schwartz
2003-02-11 20:42                     ` Horst von Brand
2003-02-11 22:11                       ` David Schwartz
2003-02-12  8:00                         ` Horst von Brand
2003-02-12 13:26                         ` Mark Hounschell
2003-02-12 15:32                         ` Chris Friesen
2003-02-12 20:18                           ` David Schwartz
2003-02-13  2:21                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-02-13  2:41                               ` David Schwartz
2003-02-13  3:01                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-02-12  3:25                 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-02-12  4:13                   ` David Schwartz
2003-02-05 18:47   ` Nilmoni Deb
2003-02-05 17:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 18:17   ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-05 18:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-05 18:33       ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-05 18:40       ` Russell King
2003-02-06 11:31       ` Alex Bennee
2003-02-05 17:28 ` Chris Friesen
2003-02-05 17:31 ` Russell King
2003-02-05 19:15 ` Alan Cox
2003-02-05 19:02   ` Nilmoni Deb
2003-02-05 19:12     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-05 21:11       ` Nilmoni Deb
2003-02-06 23:06         ` Bill Davidsen
2003-02-06 23:59           ` Nilmoni Deb
2003-02-09 14:52             ` Bill Davidsen
2003-02-09 16:50               ` Nilmoni Deb
2003-02-06 19:11 Dan Kegel
2003-02-06 20:38 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-02-07 17:28   ` Dan Kegel
2003-02-11 22:27 Larry McVoy
     [not found] <20030212201840.AAA15967%shell.webmaster.com@whenever>
2003-02-12 20:46 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-02-12 21:30   ` David Schwartz
2003-02-12 21:41     ` Derek Fawcus
     [not found] <20030212213022.AAA17490%shell.webmaster.com@whenever>
2003-02-12 21:43 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-02-12 22:31   ` David Schwartz
2003-02-12 23:04     ` Daniel Forrest
2003-02-12 23:28       ` David Schwartz

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