* Re: A more balanced view of user priviliges
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@ 2003-04-02 3:33 ` Tim Connors
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From: Tim Connors @ 2003-04-02 3:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
On Wed, 02 Apr 2003 05:20:06 +0200, I wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:12:39PM -0600, xombi@accessus.net wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, "Linus Torvalds" wrote:
>> > I've always tried to keep our work separate from religious and political
>> > influences, however I also feel that incorporating suggestions from all
>> > categories of users is part of what makes Linux, and Open Source in
>> > general, so great.
>>
>> Is there some way to use procmail on vger to filter out these pathetic
>> fakes?
>
> I doubt it but I have to agree with you, this year has been lame, nobody
> has stepped forward with a really good April Fool's posting. Come on,
> people, you can do better. There are still a few hours left.
I realise it has been pretty crap now, but in other news, I have
decided to open up BitKeeper completely.
Grab the latest version, the license files have all been changed to
reflect my decision.
--
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Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm
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* Re: A more balanced view of user priviliges
2003-04-02 3:09 ` Larry McVoy
@ 2003-04-02 4:17 ` Gerhard Mack
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From: Gerhard Mack @ 2003-04-02 4:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Larry McVoy; +Cc: xombi, linux-kernel
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Larry McVoy wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:12:39PM -0600, xombi@accessus.net wrote:
> > On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, "Linus Torvalds" wrote:
> > > I've always tried to keep our work separate from religious and political
> > > influences, however I also feel that incorporating suggestions from all
> > > categories of users is part of what makes Linux, and Open Source in
> > > general, so great.
> >
> > Is there some way to use procmail on vger to filter out these pathetic
> > fakes?
>
> I doubt it but I have to agree with you, this year has been lame, nobody
> has stepped forward with a really good April Fool's posting. Come on,
> people, you can do better. There are still a few hours left.
>
It's not been as bad as some years .. there has been no flood of lame
"Linus has sold Linux to MS" etc posts (that got lame the 12th and 13th
times they were posted.
Personally I'm holding off until I can think of somethig better than my
last one but I've nothing to top the Linux pacemaker project that I did a
couple of years ago.
Gerhard
PS I really wish I hadn't lost the drive the replies went to .. they were
hillarious.
--
Gerhard Mack
gmack@innerfire.net
<>< As a computer I find your faith in technology amusing.
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* Re: A more balanced view of user priviliges
2003-04-02 3:12 ` xombi
2003-04-02 3:09 ` Larry McVoy
@ 2003-04-02 3:13 ` A Guy Called Tyketto
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From: A Guy Called Tyketto @ 2003-04-02 3:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xombi; +Cc: linux-kernel
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:12:39PM -0600, xombi@accessus.net wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, "Linus Torvalds" wrote:
> > I've always tried to keep our work separate from religious and political
> > influences, however I also feel that incorporating suggestions from all
> > categories of users is part of what makes Linux, and Open Source in
> > general, so great.
>
> Is there some way to use procmail on vger to filter out these pathetic
> fakes?
man 1 date
BL.
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Unix Systems Administrator, | tyketto@ozemail.com.au
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* Re: A more balanced view of user priviliges
2003-04-02 2:38 Linus Torvalds
@ 2003-04-02 3:12 ` xombi
2003-04-02 3:09 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-02 3:13 ` A Guy Called Tyketto
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From: xombi @ 2003-04-02 3:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, "Linus Torvalds" wrote:
> I've always tried to keep our work separate from religious and political
> influences, however I also feel that incorporating suggestions from all
> categories of users is part of what makes Linux, and Open Source in
> general, so great.
Is there some way to use procmail on vger to filter out these pathetic
fakes?
--
\ \/ / _ |~\ _ In God We Trust. All Others Pay Cash.
> < / \|\ /|+-< | | "The world is a comedy to those that think,
/ /\ \\_/| \/ ||__)|_| a tragedy to those who feel." - Horace Walpole
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* Re: A more balanced view of user priviliges
2003-04-02 3:12 ` xombi
@ 2003-04-02 3:09 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-02 4:17 ` Gerhard Mack
2003-04-02 3:13 ` A Guy Called Tyketto
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Larry McVoy @ 2003-04-02 3:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xombi; +Cc: linux-kernel
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:12:39PM -0600, xombi@accessus.net wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, "Linus Torvalds" wrote:
> > I've always tried to keep our work separate from religious and political
> > influences, however I also feel that incorporating suggestions from all
> > categories of users is part of what makes Linux, and Open Source in
> > general, so great.
>
> Is there some way to use procmail on vger to filter out these pathetic
> fakes?
I doubt it but I have to agree with you, this year has been lame, nobody
has stepped forward with a really good April Fool's posting. Come on,
people, you can do better. There are still a few hours left.
--
---
Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm
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* A more balanced view of user priviliges
@ 2003-04-02 2:38 Linus Torvalds
2003-04-02 3:12 ` xombi
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Linus Torvalds @ 2003-04-02 2:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
Hi folks,
I've always tried to keep our work separate from religious and political
influences, however I also feel that incorporating suggestions from all
categories of users is part of what makes Linux, and Open Source in
general, so great.
I was recently talking with a friend of mine who is a Lirpa Buddhist (of
the Lo'of school, to be specific). He said that as it currently stands, we
have two types of user - the superuser, with absolute power over the
system, and the ordinary user, with no power. We even occasionally refer
to systems administrators as God. My Lipran friend believes that this
reflects an excessively Western thinking about the relationship between man
and God - a thinking which is so embedded in our culture that we seldom
realize it. After some discussion with him, I have decided that as of
2.7.x we will fork the kernel to allow other ideas about priviledges. In
particular, there will be a "Lipraite" version of the Kernel in which there
are seven categories of users:
1. The Creative User - can create any file but must then stand back and not
modify it;
2. The Destructive User - can delete any file, or shut the system down, at
which time (once hardware support is in place) it will rise from its own
ashes
3. The Force of Maintence - can change the system within fundamental
physical laws. Can not, for example, load new device drivers.
4. Ordinary users, who are bound to the cycle of writing, compiling, and
debugging, until they achieve Nirvana and log out of the system.
More may be added as needed.
Hopefully with these changes Linux 2.7+ will be more friendly to a diverse
user population.
Linus
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