Re: The IEEE-1394 saga continued... [ was: IEEE-1394 problem on init ]

From: Stelian Pop <stelian.pop@fr.alcove.com>
To: Ben Collins <bcollins@debian.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: The IEEE-1394 saga continued... [ was: IEEE-1394 problem on init ]
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 19:15:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030426171518.GF18917@vitel.alcove-fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030426162503.GF2774@phunnypharm.org>

On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 12:25:04PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:

> Now if I couldn't reproduce the bug, I'd go back to you in a attempt to
> test patches and pinpoint the problem. That just isn't the case here.
> Once I reproduce the problem, your job is done.

It is done from your point of view but not mine. You expect people
to find bugs and report to you. I expect the bug to be fixed and 
the solution be given to me. See the difference ?

Look I'm not a luser, I do maintain several projects myself, so it's
not like I'm talking of osmething I don't fully understand. When someone
reports a bug, even if I can fix and test the fix myself, I do have
the respect to let the reported know it is fixed, and how and when he
will get the fix.

> > As I said in the previous mail, I did check the archives and saw nothing
> > trivially relevant. But of course, I could have missed something.
> 
> Then you must not be looking in the proper place.

Thanks for pointing me to the right thread then.

> But not all...I personally choose to keep specific discussions about
> linux1394 on the linux1394 mailing lists. That's not to say I wont
> respond on this list, but it is to say that if I announce something
> important, it will be there and only there.

If the final point is that you just *don't want'* sending an announce mail
(either here or on your own linux1394-announce) than I think it is clear
why we had all this thread.
> 
> Sounds to me like you want to be in the middle of me and Marcelo. That
> neither I nor him have the ability to agree on what patches should and
> should not be moved from Linux1394 to the 2.4.x tree. Do you want either
> or both of our jobs?

I never said that, and you know it. But it is part of maintainer job to
answer to criticism and be open to suggestions.

I don't think there is anymore to get from this discussion, so let's end
it there.

Stelian.
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