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From: Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>
To: Anders Gustafsson <andersg@0x63.nu>
Cc: torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] XBox Gaming System subarchitecture.
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:28:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030714142838.GA29413@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030714142152.GC20708@h55p111.delphi.afb.lu.se>

On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 04:21:52PM +0200, Anders Gustafsson wrote:
 > > Notably the gcc 'workaround' and the HZ ifdef maze.
 > 
 > Ooops, wrong patch. I have a labyrinth of bitkeeper-trees here, all looking
 > almost the same.
 > 
 > The real patch contains cleaned up HZ-ifdefs.

good good..

 > Regarding the gcc "workaround" I said:
 > "I don't really know how to make clear it's not a gcc problem. But if it was,
 >  why doesn't it crash on pc and 1.0 xboxen? And why does it crash on kernels
 >  compiled with 2.95, with or without optimization? I really wish I had the
 >  explaination to this problem."
 >  
 > Or as Christoph answered: "Oh well, stupid crappy hardware..."

That's a possibility, but if that were the case, I'd expect other things
also to start randomly failing. It's unclear to me how -O2 would make
a hardware bug more aparent. If it did so, that would also mean you'd
have to ensure all your userspace was similarly compiled, which sounds
very suspect.  It's just a celeron based PC with nvidia nforce chipset right ?
If that combination caused such problems, I'd expect to see the
occasional problem report from non-Xbox regular home-built PC users too.

Might be one worth picking over on the gcc lists if you can identify
which part gets miscompiled ?

Tried different versions of binutils too ?

		Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-14 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-14 12:49 [PATCH] XBox Gaming System subarchitecture Anders Gustafsson - xbox patch monkey
2003-07-14 13:59 ` Dave Jones
2003-07-14 14:21   ` Anders Gustafsson
2003-07-14 14:28     ` Dave Jones [this message]
2003-07-14 14:54       ` Anders Gustafsson
2003-07-14 15:04         ` [CORRECT PATCH] " Anders Gustafsson
2003-07-15 12:39         ` [PATCH] " Eric W. Biederman
2003-07-15 12:51           ` Anders Gustafsson
2003-07-15 17:48             ` Mike Fedyk
2003-07-14 14:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-14 16:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-07-14 16:45   ` Anders Gustafsson

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