modules problems with 2.6.0

modules problems with 2.6.0

[Fernando Sanchez]

Hi,

I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but 
I get this error on my logs:

Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel 
modules not enabled.

Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x 
family?

The kernel does boot, but not having any modules I can't do much, and 
also, I never get to really see the messages on screen, on logs I have 
this line:

Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: Video mode to be used for restore is ffff

What does it mean?

I disabled all the framebuffer things so I can just use vga, on lilo, 
vga mode is set to normal, but still can't see anything.


TIA,



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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0

[Randy.Dunlap]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:09:19 -0500 Fernando Sanchez <fsanchez@mail.usfq.edu.ec> wrote:

| Hi,
| 
| I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but 
| I get this error on my logs:
| 
| Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel 
| modules not enabled.
| 
| Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x 
| family?

Yes, they are at
  http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rusty/modules/

Also, a summary of 2.5/2.6 changes is very worthwhile reading.  See:
  http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt
for which config options that you really need to enable.

| The kernel does boot, but not having any modules I can't do much, and 
| also, I never get to really see the messages on screen, on logs I have 
| this line:
| 
| Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: Video mode to be used for restore is ffff
| 
| What does it mean?

Dunno.  Anyone?

| I disabled all the framebuffer things so I can just use vga, on lilo, 
| vga mode is set to normal, but still can't see anything.


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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0 (module-init-tools-0.9.12)

[Piet Delaney]

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:22, Randy.Dunlap wrote:

I heard that if you install the new module-init-tools package in
/sbin that you would be able to boot old kernels. Is that true?

I installed the module-init-tools package and it went to /usr/local.
First I changed the kernel Makefile to point to /usr/local then
I had module problems and tried copying the cmds to /sbin and 
renamed the the old commands like implied in the script:

 		generate-modprobe.conf

Yesterday I heard I better move them back or I won't be able
to boot my old kernels. It's hard to believe that these tools
aren't backward compatible.

Moving the module-init-tools to /sbin didn't help my problem;
is it necessary/helpful. Perhaps they are only needed for 
building the new kernels.

-piet


> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:09:19 -0500 Fernando Sanchez <fsanchez@mail.usfq.edu.ec> wrote:
> 
> | Hi,
> | 
> | I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but 
> | I get this error on my logs:
> | 
> | Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel 
> | modules not enabled.
> | 
> | Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x 
> | family?
> 
> Yes, they are at
>   http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rusty/modules/
> 
> Also, a summary of 2.5/2.6 changes is very worthwhile reading.  See:
>   http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt
> for which config options that you really need to enable.
> 
> | The kernel does boot, but not having any modules I can't do much, and 
> | also, I never get to really see the messages on screen, on logs I have 
> | this line:
> | 
> | Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: Video mode to be used for restore is ffff
> | 
> | What does it mean?
> 
> Dunno.  Anyone?
> 
> | I disabled all the framebuffer things so I can just use vga, on lilo, 
> | vga mode is set to normal, but still can't see anything.
> 
> 
> --
> ~Randy
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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0 (module-init-tools-0.9.12)

[Diego Calleja García]

El 15 Jul 2003 16:53:12 -0700 Piet Delaney <piet@www.piet.net> escribió:

> On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:22, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> 
> I heard that if you install the new module-init-tools package in
> /sbin that you would be able to boot old kernels. Is that true?

It works here.
i've a debian distro, i apt-get'ed module-init-tools. Man modprobe says:

BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
       This version of insmod is  for  kernels  2.5.48  and  above.   If  it
       detects  a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which much of
       the work was done in userspace), it will attempt to run  insmod.modu-
       tils in its place, so it is completely transparent to the user.

diego@estel:~$ ls -l /sbin/insmod*
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root         5072 2003-06-15 12:27 /sbin/insmod
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          359 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod_ksymoops_clean
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        95372 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod.modutils


Looking at the size, insmod.modutils seems the 2.4 insmod loader. 

Re: modules problems with 2.6.0 (module-init-tools-0.9.12)

[Max Valdez]

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Gentoo works too, with 2.5 and 2.6, 2.4 works as expected, like before
installing the devel kernels

:-)

Im going for the first day of uptime with 2.6, and no problem at all

Max
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 19:12, Diego Calleja García wrote:
> El 15 Jul 2003 16:53:12 -0700 Piet Delaney <piet@www.piet.net> escribió:
> 
> > On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:22, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> > 
> > I heard that if you install the new module-init-tools package in
> > /sbin that you would be able to boot old kernels. Is that true?
> 
> It works here.
> i've a debian distro, i apt-get'ed module-init-tools. Man modprobe says:
> 
> BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
>        This version of insmod is  for  kernels  2.5.48  and  above.   If  it
>        detects  a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which much of
>        the work was done in userspace), it will attempt to run  insmod.modu-
>        tils in its place, so it is completely transparent to the user.
> 
> diego@estel:~$ ls -l /sbin/insmod*
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root         5072 2003-06-15 12:27 /sbin/insmod
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          359 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod_ksymoops_clean
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        95372 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod.modutils
> 
> 
> Looking at the size, insmod.modutils seems the 2.4 insmod loader. 
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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0 (module-init-tools-0.9.12)

[Piet Delaney]

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 17:12, Diego Calleja García wrote:
> El 15 Jul 2003 16:53:12 -0700 Piet Delaney <piet@www.piet.net> escribió:
> 
> > On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:22, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> > 
> > I heard that if you install the new module-init-tools package in
> > /sbin that you would be able to boot old kernels. Is that true?
> 
> It works here.
> i've a debian distro, i apt-get'ed module-init-tools. Man modprobe says:
> 
> BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
>        This version of insmod is  for  kernels  2.5.48  and  above.   If  it
>        detects  a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which much of
>        the work was done in userspace), it will attempt to run  insmod.modu-
>        tils in its place, so it is completely transparent to the user.
> 
> diego@estel:~$ ls -l /sbin/insmod*
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root         5072 2003-06-15 12:27 /sbin/insmod
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          359 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod_ksymoops_clean
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        95372 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod.modutils

Funny, I don't see insmod.modutils installed in /usr/local/sbin:

  	ls -l /usr/local/sbin/insmod*
	-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        28834 Jul  9 14:36
								/usr/local/sbin/insmod
	-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       461564 Jul  9 14:36
								/usr/local/sbin/insmod.static

I also didn't find insmod.modutils in the module-init-tools-0.9.12 src:
   [root@www src]# find module-init-tools-0.9.12 -name "*insmod*" -print
   module-init-tools-0.9.12/doc/insmod.sgml
   module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.c
   module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.8
   module-init-tools-0.9.12/.deps/insmod.Po
   module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.o
   module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod
   module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.static
   [root@www src]#

> 
> 
> Looking at the size, insmod.modutils seems the 2.4 insmod loader. 
I think I missed something.


 
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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0 (module-init-tools-0.9.12)

[Randy.Dunlap]

> On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 17:12, Diego Calleja García wrote:
>> El 15 Jul 2003 16:53:12 -0700 Piet Delaney <piet@www.piet.net> escribió:
>>
>> > On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:22, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
>> >
>> > I heard that if you install the new module-init-tools package in /sbin
>> that you would be able to boot old kernels. Is that true?
>>
>> It works here.
>> i've a debian distro, i apt-get'ed module-init-tools. Man modprobe says:

I don't use the debian or RH packages.  I just download and follow
the instructions in the nice README file.  I get insmod, insmod.old,
depmod, depmod.old, etc.

>> BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
>>        This version of insmod is  for  kernels  2.5.48  and  above.   If
>> it detects  a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which
>> much of the work was done in userspace), it will attempt to run
>> insmod.modu- tils in its place, so it is completely transparent to
>> the user.
>>
>> diego@estel:~$ ls -l /sbin/insmod*
>> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root         5072 2003-06-15 12:27 /sbin/insmod
>> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          359 2003-03-06 15:50
>> /sbin/insmod_ksymoops_clean -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        95372
>> 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod.modutils
>
> Funny, I don't see insmod.modutils installed in /usr/local/sbin:
>
>   	ls -l /usr/local/sbin/insmod*
> 	-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        28834 Jul  9 14:36
> 								/usr/local/sbin/insmod
> 	-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       461564 Jul  9 14:36
> 								/usr/local/sbin/insmod.static
>
> I also didn't find insmod.modutils in the module-init-tools-0.9.12 src:
>    [root@www src]# find module-init-tools-0.9.12 -name "*insmod*" -print
> module-init-tools-0.9.12/doc/insmod.sgml
>    module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.c
>    module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.8
>    module-init-tools-0.9.12/.deps/insmod.Po
>    module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.o
>    module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod
>    module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.static
>    [root@www src]#
>
>>
>>
>> Looking at the size, insmod.modutils seems the 2.4 insmod loader.
> I think I missed something.

I don't think that I have that one either.  Could be a result
of using one of the packages instead of building it from source.

~Randy

Re: modules problems with 2.6.0 (module-init-tools-0.9.12)

[Martin Schlemmer]

On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 02:12, Diego Calleja García wrote:
> El 15 Jul 2003 16:53:12 -0700 Piet Delaney <piet@www.piet.net> escribió:
> 
> > On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:22, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> > 
> > I heard that if you install the new module-init-tools package in
> > /sbin that you would be able to boot old kernels. Is that true?
> 
> It works here.
> i've a debian distro, i apt-get'ed module-init-tools. Man modprobe says:
> 
> BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
>        This version of insmod is  for  kernels  2.5.48  and  above.   If  it
>        detects  a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which much of
>        the work was done in userspace), it will attempt to run  insmod.modu-
>        tils in its place, so it is completely transparent to the user.
> 
> diego@estel:~$ ls -l /sbin/insmod*
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root         5072 2003-06-15 12:27 /sbin/insmod
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          359 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod_ksymoops_clean
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        95372 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod.modutils
> 
> 
> Looking at the size, insmod.modutils seems the 2.4 insmod loader. 

That is Debian doing things differently again.  The vanilla
modules-init-tools will run insmod.old:

  $ ls /sbin/insmod*
  /sbin/insmod  /sbin/insmod.old  /sbin/insmod.static 
/sbin/insmod_ksymoops_clean
  $ 

Anyhow, usually reading the documentation (*hint* README *hint*)
should help.


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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0

[Greg KH]

On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 05:09:19PM -0500, Fernando Sanchez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but 
> I get this error on my logs:
> 
> Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel 
> modules not enabled.
> 
> Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x 
> family?

Yes there is.  Please read the Documentation/Changes file for this info.

(hint, you need to get the module-init-tools package.)

Good luck,

greg k-h

Re: modules problems with 2.6.0

[Marc Schiffbauer]

* Fernando Sanchez schrieb am 16.07.03 um 00:09 Uhr:
> Hi,
> 
> I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but 
> I get this error on my logs:
> 
> Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel 
> modules not enabled.
> 
> Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x 
> family?
> 
> The kernel does boot, but not having any modules I can't do much, and 
> also, I never get to really see the messages on screen, on logs I have 
> this line:
> 
> Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: Video mode to be used for restore is ffff
> 
> What does it mean?
> 
> I disabled all the framebuffer things so I can just use vga, on lilo, 
> vga mode is set to normal, but still can't see anything.
> 
> 

Fernando,


read http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt
(but hsving DNS problems from germany right now)

-Marc

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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0

[Eugene Teo]

<quote sender="Marc Schiffbauer">
> * Fernando Sanchez schrieb am 16.07.03 um 00:09 Uhr:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but 
> > I get this error on my logs:
> > 
> > Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel 
> > modules not enabled.
> > 
> > Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x 
> > family?
> > 
> > The kernel does boot, but not having any modules I can't do much, and 
> > also, I never get to really see the messages on screen, on logs I have 
> > this line:
> > 
> > Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: Video mode to be used for restore is ffff
> > 
> > What does it mean?
> > 
> > I disabled all the framebuffer things so I can just use vga, on lilo, 
> > vga mode is set to normal, but still can't see anything.
>
> Fernando,
> 
> 
> read http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt
> (but hsving DNS problems from germany right now)

If you are using debian, apt-get install module-init-tools.

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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0

[Fernando Sanchez]

Eugene Teo wrote:
> <quote sender="Marc Schiffbauer">
> 
>>* Fernando Sanchez schrieb am 16.07.03 um 00:09 Uhr:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but 
>>>I get this error on my logs:
>>>
>>>Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel 
>>>modules not enabled.
>>>
>>>Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x 
>>>family?
>>>
>>>The kernel does boot, but not having any modules I can't do much, and 
>>>also, I never get to really see the messages on screen, on logs I have 
>>>this line:
>>>
>>>Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: Video mode to be used for restore is ffff
>>>
>>>What does it mean?
>>>
>>>I disabled all the framebuffer things so I can just use vga, on lilo, 
>>>vga mode is set to normal, but still can't see anything.
>>
>>Fernando,
>>
>>
>>read http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt
>>(but hsving DNS problems from germany right now)
> 
> 
> If you are using debian, apt-get install module-init-tools.
Thanks, it seems to work better than the source I get, well, I actually 
screwed up something with the sources, and dpkg was able to fix it for me :)
> 


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